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Theft of camera gear from car

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Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) - 20 Dec 2004 02:48 GMT
This is a heads up.  Yesterday I learned of a
professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska,
then went to Yellowstone (this year), where she had all her
gear stolen from a locked car.  The gear was not obvious,
so apparently the thief must have watched the photographer
with her big lenses then followed the car.  When the
photographer left the car (I think, if I remember right,
to go into a restaurant) the thief broke into the
car and and stole all the gear and weeks of exposed film.
So, be careful when out photographing with expensive
gear.  People will see what you have, so they will know
the prizes they can get from your car.

Roger
Mick Brown - 20 Dec 2004 06:22 GMT
I feel that pain,  I had al of my (uninsured) gear stolen 3 years ago, I
have only just been able to afford to replace it a couple of months ago.

Never ever leave your gear in an unattended car.

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> This is a heads up.  Yesterday I learned of a
> professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska,
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> Roger
Gregory Blank - 20 Dec 2004 13:31 GMT
In article <41C63D6B.40003@qwest.net>,
"Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username@qwest.net>
wrote:

> This is a heads up.  Yesterday I learned of a
> professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska,
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>
> Roger

If I had a lot of expensive gear I would,

A) Have it insured.

B) Watch out for people watching and following me.

C) Park my car where I can watch it.

D) Bring as much of my gear into the restaurant as possible
if I felt uncertain of the place.

Yellowstone and other National Parks are prime car theft locations
(period).

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Texx Smith - 27 Dec 2004 11:37 GMT
Teft IS very VERY common in yellowstone.  It's a shame most peple don't know
that.  You are almost garunteed to get uyour car broken into there.

Still, that sucks!
They took the film too, hoew lame, probably thought it was unexposed and
coul;d resell it or more likely didn't take the time to even look.
> In article <41C63D6B.40003@qwest.net>,
>  "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username@qwest.net>
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> Yellowstone and other National Parks are prime car theft locations
> (period).
Bryan Heit - 22 Dec 2004 15:07 GMT
She may be reading too much into this (the whole stalking thing) -
Yellowstone has some major issues with break-ins.  A few years ago some
friends and I were travelling in the area.  Being poor we didn't exactly
have any valuables, but that didn't stop thieves from breaking into both
vehicles.  Total loss was less then $100 between both vehicles (old
diskman, some loose change, some CD's).  From what locals told me
thieves just target cars at random; most out-of-state cars are tourist
cars, and tourists tend to carry a lot of valuable junk.  Lesson
leanred: keep all valuables on your person (ideal solution), or keep
your car in sight at all times.

Bryan
kodakfilm@gmail.com - 24 Dec 2004 23:09 GMT
I took out a personal items policy from State Farm just before I went
to Mexico with my new Nikon D70. I didn't get mugged and so thought
maybe I "wasted" my money. About a month after I returned I was taking
pictures of a mountain stream in the Sierras. I fell into the water and
destroyed the D70 and attached lens. I called State Farm [not that it
matters who does your "personal items" policy]. They paid for a brand
new D70, a new lens the 28 - 200mm "G" lens  [the old one was long
since discontinued] , and all the shipping costs. That's what happens
when even an accident like this happens - never mind a theft. My rates
haven't gone up either.

Tom Roach
Jer - 24 Dec 2004 23:46 GMT
> I took out a personal items policy from State Farm just before I went
> to Mexico with my new Nikon D70. I didn't get mugged and so thought
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>
> Tom Roach

Didja at least recover the macro shots of the fish?

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David Hardin - 25 Dec 2004 00:18 GMT
Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy.  Was
hiking in mountains on a windy day.  Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod down on a
ledge while getting a filter out of the bag and the wind took the whole kit
down about 25 ft. of granite.

SF replace all the broken with upgraded stuff since the D-60 was obsolete.
Had my new kit in about a week.

BTW, the D-60 still worked (except for the popup flash) -- so I bought it
back from SF for $250 as a second body.

>I took out a personal items policy from State Farm just before I went
> to Mexico with my new Nikon D70. I didn't get mugged and so thought
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>
> Tom Roach
Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) - 25 Dec 2004 03:09 GMT
> Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy.  Was
> hiking in mountains on a windy day.  Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod down on a
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>>
>>Tom Roach

Question:
Does your personal policy work for any conditions, including
theft from a car?  I got a rider on my Farmers home
insurance for all my photo stuff, but then when I read
the fine print, it excluded cars thefts.

Roger
David Hardin - 25 Dec 2004 18:50 GMT
Yes -- Loss from any cause.
>> Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy.
>> Was hiking in mountains on a windy day.  Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod
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>
> Roger
David Hardin - 25 Dec 2004 18:51 GMT
And the insurance is pretty inexpensive.  I've insured all my camera gear --  
worth only about $6000 for less than $100 per year.
>> Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy.
>> Was hiking in mountains on a windy day.  Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod
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> Roger
xxx - 25 Dec 2004 19:30 GMT
> I took out a personal items policy from State Farm >
> Tom Roach

How much?
JPS@no.komm - 31 Dec 2004 18:42 GMT
>I called State Farm [not that it
>matters who does your "personal items" policy].

Maybe it does.  I've heard people complain that the insurance they had
from other companies only paid a fraction of what it cost to replace the
items (their current value, prorated), much to their surprise.  State
Farm offered me full replacement for the personal property when I went
for my coop/condo insurance, as default, without me asking for it,
special.  State Farm has one of the highest customer satisfaction
levels, because, as you said in your post, they do not penalize their
customers for a small number of incidences (they maintain your "safe
driver" discount if they have granted it to you, even with one moving
violation and/or accident under your belt), and generally don't snoop
into DMV records on you (this is usually only triggered by an actual
collision with a claim).
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Gregory Blank - 01 Jan 2005 00:32 GMT
> Maybe it does.  I've heard people complain that the insurance they had
> from other companies only paid a fraction of what it cost to replace the
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> into DMV records on you (this is usually only triggered by an actual
> collision with a claim).

On the other hand they are one of the pickier insurance companies to
get coverage from. If your clean it should be no problem. I've been
insured by them 24 years, no major claims. People I know though have
exclusions on them from State Farm for more than twenty plus years.

I've been very happy.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Lisa Horton - 25 Dec 2004 19:34 GMT
> This is a heads up.  Yesterday I learned of a
> professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska,
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> gear.  People will see what you have, so they will know
> the prizes they can get from your car.

One thing that can usually help is to make sure that you stow your gear
in your car at a different location than where you stop and park.  Never
put in or take out gear when in a place where you'll be leaving your car
unattended.  It might not have helped the woman in this story, but can
be helpful in other situations.

Lisa
Jer - 26 Dec 2004 06:57 GMT
>>This is a heads up.  Yesterday I learned of a
>>professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska,
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>
> Lisa

I can already see I'm not the only one that figured this out.  I never
open my trunk in the company if strangers if I'm leaving it alone afterward.

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JPS@no.komm - 31 Dec 2004 19:27 GMT
>I can already see I'm not the only one that figured this out.  I never
>open my trunk in the company if strangers if I'm leaving it alone afterward.

If I am in a shopping center, and buy something in one store that looks
like it may be valuable, I will put it in my trunk, and drive to another
parking spot, before going into another store.  Same with my London Fog
bag that I sometimes carry my laptop in, or a jacket I am shedding.

One of the biggest tools that thieves use again people is some people's
belief that there is such a thing as "safe areas".  There are no safe
areas, there are only areas where statistically speaking, per capita
crime is a fraction of what it is in other areas, and the fractions
aren't infinitessimal, by any measure.  Nor are great landscape views
evidence of lower crime.  I am an urbanite, and from what I can recall,
more of my rural aquaintences have had their homes burglarized than my
city aquaintences.  That's not to say that the insurance companies won't
charge more for the city, quoting "burglaries per square mile" as their
factor.
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