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Theft of camera gear from car
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Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) - 20 Dec 2004 02:48 GMT This is a heads up. Yesterday I learned of a professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska, then went to Yellowstone (this year), where she had all her gear stolen from a locked car. The gear was not obvious, so apparently the thief must have watched the photographer with her big lenses then followed the car. When the photographer left the car (I think, if I remember right, to go into a restaurant) the thief broke into the car and and stole all the gear and weeks of exposed film. So, be careful when out photographing with expensive gear. People will see what you have, so they will know the prizes they can get from your car.
Roger
Mick Brown - 20 Dec 2004 06:22 GMT I feel that pain, I had al of my (uninsured) gear stolen 3 years ago, I have only just been able to afford to replace it a couple of months ago.
Never ever leave your gear in an unattended car.
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> This is a heads up. Yesterday I learned of a > professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Roger Gregory Blank - 20 Dec 2004 13:31 GMT In article <41C63D6B.40003@qwest.net>, "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username@qwest.net> wrote:
> This is a heads up. Yesterday I learned of a > professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Roger If I had a lot of expensive gear I would,
A) Have it insured.
B) Watch out for people watching and following me.
C) Park my car where I can watch it.
D) Bring as much of my gear into the restaurant as possible if I felt uncertain of the place.
Yellowstone and other National Parks are prime car theft locations (period).
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Texx Smith - 27 Dec 2004 11:37 GMT Teft IS very VERY common in yellowstone. It's a shame most peple don't know that. You are almost garunteed to get uyour car broken into there.
Still, that sucks! They took the film too, hoew lame, probably thought it was unexposed and coul;d resell it or more likely didn't take the time to even look.
> In article <41C63D6B.40003@qwest.net>, > "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username@qwest.net> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Yellowstone and other National Parks are prime car theft locations > (period). Bryan Heit - 22 Dec 2004 15:07 GMT She may be reading too much into this (the whole stalking thing) - Yellowstone has some major issues with break-ins. A few years ago some friends and I were travelling in the area. Being poor we didn't exactly have any valuables, but that didn't stop thieves from breaking into both vehicles. Total loss was less then $100 between both vehicles (old diskman, some loose change, some CD's). From what locals told me thieves just target cars at random; most out-of-state cars are tourist cars, and tourists tend to carry a lot of valuable junk. Lesson leanred: keep all valuables on your person (ideal solution), or keep your car in sight at all times.
Bryan
kodakfilm@gmail.com - 24 Dec 2004 23:09 GMT I took out a personal items policy from State Farm just before I went to Mexico with my new Nikon D70. I didn't get mugged and so thought maybe I "wasted" my money. About a month after I returned I was taking pictures of a mountain stream in the Sierras. I fell into the water and destroyed the D70 and attached lens. I called State Farm [not that it matters who does your "personal items" policy]. They paid for a brand new D70, a new lens the 28 - 200mm "G" lens [the old one was long since discontinued] , and all the shipping costs. That's what happens when even an accident like this happens - never mind a theft. My rates haven't gone up either.
Tom Roach
Jer - 24 Dec 2004 23:46 GMT > I took out a personal items policy from State Farm just before I went > to Mexico with my new Nikon D70. I didn't get mugged and so thought [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom Roach Didja at least recover the macro shots of the fish?
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David Hardin - 25 Dec 2004 00:18 GMT Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy. Was hiking in mountains on a windy day. Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod down on a ledge while getting a filter out of the bag and the wind took the whole kit down about 25 ft. of granite.
SF replace all the broken with upgraded stuff since the D-60 was obsolete. Had my new kit in about a week.
BTW, the D-60 still worked (except for the popup flash) -- so I bought it back from SF for $250 as a second body.
>I took out a personal items policy from State Farm just before I went > to Mexico with my new Nikon D70. I didn't get mugged and so thought [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom Roach Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) - 25 Dec 2004 03:09 GMT > Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy. Was > hiking in mountains on a windy day. Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod down on a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >>Tom Roach Question: Does your personal policy work for any conditions, including theft from a car? I got a rider on my Farmers home insurance for all my photo stuff, but then when I read the fine print, it excluded cars thefts.
Roger
David Hardin - 25 Dec 2004 18:50 GMT Yes -- Loss from any cause.
>> Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy. >> Was hiking in mountains on a windy day. Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Roger David Hardin - 25 Dec 2004 18:51 GMT And the insurance is pretty inexpensive. I've insured all my camera gear -- worth only about $6000 for less than $100 per year.
>> Had similar experience with State Farm and their personal items policy. >> Was hiking in mountains on a windy day. Sat my D-60 and Bogen tripod [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Roger xxx - 25 Dec 2004 19:30 GMT > I took out a personal items policy from State Farm > > Tom Roach How much?
JPS@no.komm - 31 Dec 2004 18:42 GMT >I called State Farm [not that it >matters who does your "personal items" policy]. Maybe it does. I've heard people complain that the insurance they had from other companies only paid a fraction of what it cost to replace the items (their current value, prorated), much to their surprise. State Farm offered me full replacement for the personal property when I went for my coop/condo insurance, as default, without me asking for it, special. State Farm has one of the highest customer satisfaction levels, because, as you said in your post, they do not penalize their customers for a small number of incidences (they maintain your "safe driver" discount if they have granted it to you, even with one moving violation and/or accident under your belt), and generally don't snoop into DMV records on you (this is usually only triggered by an actual collision with a claim).
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><<> <>>< <>>< ><<> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< Gregory Blank - 01 Jan 2005 00:32 GMT > Maybe it does. I've heard people complain that the insurance they had > from other companies only paid a fraction of what it cost to replace the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > into DMV records on you (this is usually only triggered by an actual > collision with a claim). On the other hand they are one of the pickier insurance companies to get coverage from. If your clean it should be no problem. I've been insured by them 24 years, no major claims. People I know though have exclusions on them from State Farm for more than twenty plus years.
I've been very happy.
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Lisa Horton - 25 Dec 2004 19:34 GMT > This is a heads up. Yesterday I learned of a > professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > gear. People will see what you have, so they will know > the prizes they can get from your car. One thing that can usually help is to make sure that you stow your gear in your car at a different location than where you stop and park. Never put in or take out gear when in a place where you'll be leaving your car unattended. It might not have helped the woman in this story, but can be helpful in other situations.
Lisa
Jer - 26 Dec 2004 06:57 GMT >>This is a heads up. Yesterday I learned of a >>professional photographer who had spent time in Alaska, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Lisa I can already see I'm not the only one that figured this out. I never open my trunk in the company if strangers if I'm leaving it alone afterward.
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JPS@no.komm - 31 Dec 2004 19:27 GMT >I can already see I'm not the only one that figured this out. I never >open my trunk in the company if strangers if I'm leaving it alone afterward. If I am in a shopping center, and buy something in one store that looks like it may be valuable, I will put it in my trunk, and drive to another parking spot, before going into another store. Same with my London Fog bag that I sometimes carry my laptop in, or a jacket I am shedding.
One of the biggest tools that thieves use again people is some people's belief that there is such a thing as "safe areas". There are no safe areas, there are only areas where statistically speaking, per capita crime is a fraction of what it is in other areas, and the fractions aren't infinitessimal, by any measure. Nor are great landscape views evidence of lower crime. I am an urbanite, and from what I can recall, more of my rural aquaintences have had their homes burglarized than my city aquaintences. That's not to say that the insurance companies won't charge more for the city, quoting "burglaries per square mile" as their factor.
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