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Sunrise in Monument Valley

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Martin Djernæs - 18 Aug 2004 07:21 GMT
Hi,

I'm going to Monument Valley and plan to try to take some sunrise
pictures, but since I can only stay a day there I would like to have an
idea about where I should be to get a good "typical" picture of the buttes?

Does anyone a few tips as to where in the valley I should go?

I'll probably also try something at sunset and durring the day, so other
tips are also welcome.

Martin
Scott M. Knowles - 18 Aug 2004 13:21 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Martin

It's been years since I've been through there (worked on reservations
in AZ in the early 1980's), but remember to check with the Navajo
Tribal office for access and information.  It's their land and their
rules.  They're pretty accommodating if you are too.

Good luck.
Bill Hilton - 18 Aug 2004 16:13 GMT
>From: Martin_Djern  martin@djernaes.dk.del

>I'm going to Monument Valley and plan to try to take some sunrise
>pictures, but since I can only stay a day there I would like to have an
>idea about where I should be to get a good "typical" picture of the buttes?
>
>Does anyone a few tips as to where in the valley I should go?

At sunrise you can only go to the parking lot area unless you have a guide and
sign up for a sunrise tour.  You can still get some decent shots of the famous
Mittens backlit at sunrise but the light on them is much better later,
especially at sunset.

You can hire a guide at the visitor center.

>I'll probably also try something at sunset and durring the day, so other
>tips are also welcome.

You can drive the 17 mile road inside the valley once the gates open (which
will be well after sunrise though).  Some good spots there, depending on the
light.  For many of the iconic shots like the dunes in front of Totem Pole or
Teardrop Arch you will have to hire a guide since access is limited.

Basically to do much you need to hire a guide, unless you get a break with the
weather.  I'd recommend a couple of my Navajo friends who live in the Valley,
Vergil Bedonie of Totem Pole Outfitters or Daniel Chee of Daniel's Guiding
Service.  Also Fred Cly of Fred's Guiding Service has worked with several
famous photographers (Fatali, Tom Till, Dykinga), worked as a consultant with
movie crews and done stunt-man work and even appeared in Chevrolet commercials
and knows exactly where to go for best light.  You can get their phone numbers
at the visitor center.

If you want to see some MV shots look at this unfinished web page, where five
of the photos are from MV ...
http://members.aol.com/canyonimge/gallery/g_cc.htm ... or this one, where three
of the photos are from MV ...
http://members.aol.com/marlinazul/gallery/g_cc.htm ... if you have any
questions about where these spots are let me know ... of the 8 shots from MV I
had a guide for only two of them, Totem Pole moonrise and Teardrop Arch, the
rest you can reach on your own.

What you really want is a fast moving storm with rain and then a rainbow :)
Good luck.

Bill
Martin Djernæs - 18 Aug 2004 20:13 GMT
Hi Bill,

>>Does anyone a few tips as to where in the valley I should go?
>
> At sunrise you can only go to the parking lot area unless you have a guide and
> sign up for a sunrise tour.  You can still get some decent shots of the famous
> Mittens backlit at sunrise but the light on them is much better later,
> especially at sunset.

I'll do what I can to be there at sunset as well ;-)

> You can hire a guide at the visitor center.

I think I'll pass on the guide for now. Maybe next time ;)

> You can drive the 17 mile road inside the valley once the gates open (which
> will be well after sunrise though).  

Sounds like you have been there recently. I keep hearing that the 17mile
loop is "only for 4x4s" - is that right? I'll be driving a dodge van (a
bit lower clearance than normal), but I do't fear using if on a (bit)
rough dirt road.

> If you want to see some MV shots look at this unfinished web page, where five
> of the photos are from MV ...
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> had a guide for only two of them, Totem Pole moonrise and Teardrop Arch, the
> rest you can reach on your own.

Waurw .. I whish I would ever be able to get images like that. Sorry,
but I'm just a newbee/amateur with limited expierence and equipment. Any
tips for pictures like the one of "Slot Canyon - Walls of Fire" etc?

> What you really want is a fast moving storm with rain and then a rainbow :)
> Good luck.

I better not tell my wife that ;-))

Martin
Bill Hilton - 18 Aug 2004 20:37 GMT
>> You can drive the 17 mile road inside the valley once the gates open

>From: Martin_Djern

>I keep hearing that the 17mile
>loop is "only for 4x4s" - is that right?

It's always been OK for passenger cars unless there was a heavy storm recently
and the road got rutted or washed out.  Usually the first couple of turns at
the start are the worst, just drive slow so you don't bottom out.  After that
it's not bad at all.  I've heard of people bottoming out and puncturing their
oil pans on that first section so be careful at the start.

>Any tips for pictures like the one of "Slot Canyon - Walls of Fire" etc?

Antelope Canyon (lower part, not upper) near Page, which is about 90 minutes to
2 hours west/northwest of Monument Valley.  I wouldn't go in the slot canyons
this time of year due to the chances of flash flooding, but if you feel lucky
then go early and leave by noon and only on a very clear, cloudless day.
Afternoons typically get the storm buildup.  Eleven people drowned in there a
few years ago during a flash flood even though the sky was clear above them.

Have a good trip!

Bill
Martin Djernæs - 18 Aug 2004 22:16 GMT
Hi Bill,

>>>You can drive the 17 mile road inside the valley once the gates open
>
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> it's not bad at all.  I've heard of people bottoming out and puncturing their
> oil pans on that first section so be careful at the start.

Thanks.

>>Any tips for pictures like the one of "Slot Canyon - Walls of Fire" etc?
>
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> Afternoons typically get the storm buildup.  Eleven people drowned in there a
> few years ago during a flash flood even though the sky was clear above them.

I think this will have to wait for this time as our direction from
Monument Valley will be east ;-)

> Have a good trip!

Thanks.

Martin
David Hand - 02 May 2005 23:34 GMT
Is the loop road accessible to RVs?  Do you remember seeing any RVs on the
road?

Thanks,

The Hand Family
Martin Djernæs - 30 Aug 2004 01:40 GMT
Hi Bill,

> At sunrise you can only go to the parking lot area unless you have a guide and
> sign up for a sunrise tour.  You can still get some decent shots of the famous
> Mittens backlit at sunrise but the light on them is much better later,
> especially at sunset.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. We made it in time for sunset,
however that day the light wasn't the best one could wish for ;-) The
next morning was gorgeous, but I agree not the best for photograpgy. I
haven't seen my pictures yet, so I'm still hoping for the best ;-).

Martin
Peter D. Tillman - 30 Aug 2004 16:21 GMT
> I'm going to Monument Valley and plan to try to take some sunrise
> pictures, but since I can only stay a day there I would like to have an
> idea about where I should be to get a good "typical" picture of the buttes?
>
> Does anyone a few tips as to where in the valley I should go?

You could do worse than picking up a copy of "Monument Valley -- the
Story behind the Scenery" (KC Pubs, $8 or so), which is filled with
Josef Muench's classic MV fotos. Lots of cool MV/Muench lore, too.
<http://www.silcom.com/~manatee/muench_monument.html>

And don't miss the Goosenecks of the San Juan, nearby. For that matter,
a Navajo taco at the cafe in Mexican Hat is de rigeur for any proper MV
visit.

Cheers -- Pete Tillman
Randy Stewart - 31 Aug 2004 03:09 GMT
Having done the trip, I'd recommend signing up for one of the Indian guided
photo tours, which start before dawn.  The best sunrise shots seem to be in
areas not available to the public in self-quided areas of the Valley.  The
guides generally know what you want and make a real effort to deliver the
best locations and lighting. When I did this a few years ago, we got from
dawn to late morning for $40/person and added a $10/person tip for the
excellent service provided.

Also, the guides provide a vehicle, since many of these areas cannot be
navigated without a 4-wheel drive SUV or truck.  Several services have
websites to describe the service, make reservations, etc.

> > I'm going to Monument Valley and plan to try to take some sunrise
> > pictures, but since I can only stay a day there I would like to have an
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>
> Cheers -- Pete Tillman
Martin Djernæs - 31 Aug 2004 05:19 GMT
Hi,

> Having done the trip, I'd recommend signing up for one of the Indian guided
> photo tours, which start before dawn.  The best sunrise shots seem to be in
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> dawn to late morning for $40/person and added a $10/person tip for the
> excellent service provided.

Well .. I'm back again and I didn't do any guided tours, but maybe next
time though. The view in the morning, from the vistor center /
campground, was nothing less than spectacular. I'm sure that guided turs
is worth the money, but it was also really nice to see (and photograph)
what was there. The place is probably one of the most beautiful I have
seen in a long time.

Martin
 
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