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Peter FAULAND - 21 Oct 2003 11:25 GMT
hello ...

after two years I returned to this place. I was strongly fascinated - as
the first time. I would like to know, how the photos act on the unbiased
viewer ??

Thanx for looking ...

    Peter
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MDCORE - 21 Oct 2003 14:48 GMT
Nice- ever do these in color?
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Peter FAULAND - 21 Oct 2003 15:27 GMT
Hi,

> Nice- ever do these in color?

I also shot on Fuji Velvia ... I will also put those pics on the web ...

    Peter

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Bill Hilton - 21 Oct 2003 16:42 GMT
>From: mdcore@aol.com  (MDCORE)

>Nice- ever do these in color?

Here are a couple of color shots of the Wave area by one of the locals, shot on
8x10" sheet film.  He prints these very large as Ilfochromes and has a gallery
just outside Zion National Park in Springdale.  He has ALMOST (but not quite)
recovered from the "torching of Delicate Arch incident" by now ...

http://www.fatali.com/gallery/SwirlingStone/Wave.html
http://www.fatali.com/gallery/SwirlingStone/TwistOfFate.html
http://www.fatali.com/gallery/SwirlingStone/Reflections.html
http://www.fatali.com/gallery/SwirlingStone/DancingLines.html
http://www.fatali.com/gallery/SwirlingStone/Swirls.html  and similar in the
other portfolios

Here's the archetypal shot, by Jack Dykinga ... every time I go up there
someone has dragged a cedar tree root into this pool (the rare times it has
water) to try to copy this shot (mea culpa).  But no one ever got it quite like
this again.

http://www.dykinga.com/gallery/viewer/galviewer2.html

It's a wonderful place, no matter how many times it's been shot.

Bill
Bill Hilton - 21 Oct 2003 15:27 GMT
>From: Peter FAULAND Peter.Fauland@cern.ch

>after two years I returned to this place. I was strongly fascinated - as
>the first time. I would like to know, how the photos act on the unbiased
>viewer ??

Well, I'm a "biased viewer" I guess, since I've been there a dozen times ...
but anyway, the problem shooting in a place like this is that so many talented
photographers have shot it before you that it's easy to just shoot the same
compositions.  I know some of my shots are pretty much identical to what Fatali
or Dykinga shot, for example (except mine weren't on 8x10 or 4x5 sheet film :).


Using black/white was a very good idea, made for some dramatic scenes,
especially with the wide angles.  Nice job, Peter.  You were able to put a
different twist on it and should be congratulated.

Did you ever keep going down Wire Pass and shoot b/w in Buckskin Gulch?  When I
had my own darkroom that was my favorite spot for b/w, at least in the rare
years it was dry.

Bill
Peter FAULAND - 21 Oct 2003 16:03 GMT
Hi Bill !

> Well, I'm a "biased viewer" I guess, since I've been there a dozen times ...

You are really lucky man ... :-)

> Using black/white was a very good idea, made for some dramatic scenes,
> especially with the wide angles.  Nice job, Peter.  You were able to put a
> different twist on it and should be congratulated.

Thanks a lot ! For me it's very interesting to be asked all the time "Do
you have that in color ?" For me, the sharp and precise lines of the
different layers of sandstone are _predestinated_ to be shot in
black&white !! You should see the slides (I always use Agfa Scala!) ...

> Did you ever keep going down Wire Pass and shoot b/w in Buckskin Gulch?  When I
> had my own darkroom that was my favorite spot for b/w, at least in the rare
> years it was dry.

This is top priority on my to-do-list for next year !!

Thanks for your comments ...

    bye

    Peter
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Liz - 21 Oct 2003 23:32 GMT
> Hi Bill !
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> > especially with the wide angles.  Nice job, Peter.  You were able to put a
> > different twist on it and should be congratulated.

Great pic.
For usg ignorant non-Yanks, where is The Wave?
Tx

Liz

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Bill Hilton - 22 Oct 2003 00:15 GMT
>From: Liz liz@v-liz.co.uk

>For usg ignorant non-Yanks, where is The Wave?

In the Coyote Buttes (North) section of the Paria Canyon - Vermillion Cliffs
Wilderness area pretty much right on the Utah - Arizona border (you park in
Utah and cross the border hiking in).  About an hour drive from either Page, AZ
or Kanab, UT.

https://www.az.blm.gov/paria/
http://azwww.az.blm.gov/rec/pariaver.htm  

It's hard to get a permit (10 per day in advance -- usually taken within
minutes once made available for prime times -- and sometimes a few permits are
available for walk-ups in Kanab or at the Paria Ranger Station) and you have to
hike in about 3 miles over rough country to get there.

But worth it.

Bill
Liz - 22 Oct 2003 22:31 GMT
> >From: Liz liz@v-liz.co.uk
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> Utah and cross the border hiking in).  About an hour drive from either Page, AZ
> or Kanab, UT.

Aaaah
Pity I didn't know about it before our "Great SW Trip" a couple of years
back - but that was a *very* rushed four weeks anyway.

Never mind, another time, maybe.
Tx for the info.

Slainte

Liz
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WKato - 22 Oct 2003 17:06 GMT
>>after two years I returned to this place. I was strongly fascinated - as the
first time. I would like to know, how the photos act on the unbiased viewer
??<<
Who is unbiased? Only those who haven't been there? Anyway here are my biased
comments:
First of all your photos are great in black and white.
The Wave: looks wonderful in black and white.
Mirror Lake: I always wondered if someone dragged that log into the site. I
have photos of it too. We have taken it for granted that it was not planted
there. Probably Fatali dragged it there (my bad!)
Created by sand: a nice hourglass shaped graphic of a location I took but
didn't like my photos.  Works better in B&W.
Timelines:  I thought I was the only one to spot this scene. I love how the
striations curve and change 180 degrees.

I've only been there twice (unlike lucky Bill) and plan to return in the
spring.

Warren
Marsha Watson - 23 Oct 2003 15:44 GMT
Looks absolutely awesome. I do wonder what they would look like in
color? I'm not much of a BW fan myself. But I'm not a critic either. :D

> hello ...
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>     Peter
 
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