Greetings!
I'm trying to devise a way to set up a camera outside to collect 1image
daily of the same streamside scene for several months. Ideally the
camera would be setup and left for a few weeks at a time. There is no
power to the site so the thing would need to be self contained. Does
anyone out there have any experience with something like this. Image
quality does not need to be great. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Andrea
Kernix - 19 Apr 2006 18:52 GMT
How about a battery pack for power, but then you would have to figure
out how to create a 24:00:00 timer. Maybe some sort of simple timer
that could somehow trigger the shutter - via an electronic cable
relears or infrared remote. Not sure.
wsrphoto - 20 Apr 2006 00:31 GMT
What's your budget for the project? You'll need a control system for
the camera, such as an intervalometer like a Pocket Wizard to trigger
the camera, but the real problem will be power supplies, leaving the
camera on for the duration or a way to wake it up (are there models
that have silent modes?) before it meters the scene and releases the
shutter. You may have to add a large battery with additional voltage
drops controllers. You should look up some photographers who do similar
work, often remote video system, such as wildlife biologist. The last
thing you'll need is a hidden, secure, weather-proof box (see NEMA
enclosures). Good luck and keep us posted.
Kernix - 20 Apr 2006 16:00 GMT
> but the real problem will be power supplies, leaving the
> camera on for the duration or a way to wake it up (are there models
> that have silent modes?)
My Canon A2 has a feature where the LED goes blank after 10 seconds so
as to save battery power. I've forgotten to turn the camera off and
days later I notice and still have power. And so a good solution would
be to have the feature in tanden with the battery pack accessory
wsrphoto - 21 Apr 2006 02:07 GMT
Minolta XD-series camera are similar in that power is always there,
just touch the shutter release (not pressing to trigger it). To solve
the problem is that you need to have a camera with a save and wake up
modes or with a longlife on mode. Some video cameras have this for
remote applications such as a movement sensor which triggers the camera
record mode. Wildlife photographers use this along with some other
field applications. The USGS used this to record glacial outburst
floods triggered by sensors attached to rocks which are moved during
floods. If a digital camera can stay on for a long time (weeks) then a
intervalometer will work to trigger it. Pocket Wizards have a range of
seconds to days between trigger events. The last question is simply the
installation to weather and critter proof it. A good NEMA enclosure
would do that. Human proofing it is another matter.
AndreaRPearce@gmail.com - 21 Apr 2006 17:09 GMT
We are low budget (grad students). I contact some wildlife bio folks
and they pointed me to $100-$500 commercially available "scouting
cameras" marketed to hunters. They typically contain inexpensive
digital cameras magically connected to an IR motion sensor housed in a
waterproof box. Most advertise that they can be left for up to a month
at a time. I might follow this route to see if I can find something
that could be setup on a timer, as they seem to have solved some of the
on/off, power and weatherproofing issues already.
Thanks for the feeback!
-Andrea
> Minolta XD-series camera are similar in that power is always there,
> just touch the shutter release (not pressing to trigger it). To solve
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> installation to weather and critter proof it. A good NEMA enclosure
> would do that. Human proofing it is another matter.
Nicholas O. Lindan - 25 Apr 2006 20:49 GMT
> I'm trying to devise a way to set up a camera outside to
> collect 1 image daily of the same streamside scene for several months.
Any motorized film point and shoot can do this if you have an external
timer to fire the camera. Unlike a digicam, film cameras draw no power
when sitting idle.
You should be able to find an engineering student who can wire the
timer to the camera or to the camera's IR remote release. Ask the
student when was the first time he/she rebuilt a car engine or if he
is/was a ham ... if the answer is zip then find another student ... many
engineering students can't tell one end of a soldering iron
from the other even after repeated tries.
The same student should be able to whip up a 24 hour interval timer
from some micro-power single-chip processor and a couple D-cells.
There are web sites with instruction for modifying P&S cameras
for game tracking.
Buy the camera on eBay ... with digital the rage folks are selling
their old film cameras for pennies on the dollar.
Steve Wolfe - 26 Apr 2006 09:19 GMT
> I'm trying to devise a way to set up a camera outside to collect 1image
> daily of the same streamside scene for several months. Ideally the
> camera would be setup and left for a few weeks at a time. There is no
> power to the site so the thing would need to be self contained. Does
> anyone out there have any experience with something like this. Image
> quality does not need to be great. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Canon dSLRs, even when turned on, will go into a sleep mode that is VERY
light on the battery, and with a half-press of the shutter button, they're
ready to go. (other makes/models may do the same.) One of my friends
doesn't even bother to turn his camera off, and even with much more shooting
than you're planning on, only recharges every few weeks. Assuming that the
same can be accomplished via the wired-remote port, all you need is a timer
to trigger it. At the cheap end, a 555 timer circuit could be put together
for $20 that would run virtually forever on a 9-volt battery.
If you're really worried about power, with a small sealed-lead-acid
battery, a voltage regulator, and a small solar panel or two, you could
leave the thing running for half of a decade, at least from an electrical
standpoint. Storage, mechanical failure, and weather, however, would have a
say. Of course, with the power-sipping nature in the sleep mode and only
one exposure per day, a $15 7-AH battery would probably have enough juice to
run the camera for a year or more, the solar panels would mostly be there to
counteract the self-discharging nature of the lead-acid battery.
Hmm... that actually sounds like a fun project. Maybe I'll keep my eyes
open for a cheap camera to do something like that with... it surprises me
how much even old D30s (not 30Ds) go for.
steve