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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Medium format / August 2008flektogon not bad at all
A lot of folks complain about the eastern block lenses and cameras. Just got hold of an arax 60 with a Zeiss Jena Flektogon 50/4. Initial results are more than promising: http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/beach%20park.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narra%20lagoon02.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth03.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth06.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth09.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narra%20park01.jpg Best viewed with an adobe rgb(1998) profiled screen. That's Kodak 100 ekta, very old roll I had in the fridge. Very happy indeed with these results: I think this combination is gonna be at my side for a while. Had none of the often mentioned problems with film advance registration: just gotta be careful when loading that the film doesn't catch on the rails. Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo? > Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo? I've bought a re-worked Kiev 60 (basically the same camera) from Wiese of Hamburg, Germany, eight years ago. Works perfectly and I've never had the slightest problem. Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the Arax-style MLU. I have nothing but praise for it. And, yes, the Flektogon is indeed a very good lens. Ralf  SignatureRalf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses Ralf R. Radermacher wrote,on my timestamp of 16/04/2008 11:37 PM: >> Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ralf Thanks a lot, Ralf. Love your Contarex shots! One thing: do you have any comments on the Sonnar 180/2.8? I'm thinking of getting one of those for the same camera but haven't had a chance to look for photo samples. Also: on standard lenses, I'm told the Biometars are excelllent, comments? > One thing: do you have any comments on the > Sonnar 180/2.8? I'm thinking of getting > one of those for the same camera but haven't > had a chance to look for photo samples. > Also: on standard lenses, I'm told > the Biometars are excelllent, comments? You'll find a number of comments on the various lenses here: http://www.fotoralf.de/k60lens.htm The Sonnar has always been one of my favourites, on the K60 as well as adapted to my 35 mm cameras. My 80 mm MC Biometar in the later Schneider barrel (blue/grey rubber coating) is good enough that I've sold my Xenotar. The differences were of no practical consequence. The 120 mm MC Biometar is one of the best if not the best among my Zeiss Jena lenses. Ralf SignatureRalf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses Ralf R. Radermacher wrote,on my timestamp of 17/04/2008 12:33 AM: >> One thing: do you have any comments on the >> Sonnar 180/2.8? I'm thinking of getting [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Ralf Thanks for the comments, Ralf. Will do a read of that page. Gotta think about this very seriously: I do mostly 6x7 MF but have been looking at 6x6 for a while. This looks like an economical and high quality system base to build around. > [...] I've never had > the slightest problem. And, > Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei > viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the > Arax-style MLU. Strikes me as if there were a few things you thought were in need of improvement, else you would not have wanted/needed to spend the extra money on it, right? ;-) Q.G. de Bakker wrote,on my timestamp of 17/04/2008 1:02 AM: >> Over the years I've had it fitted with a Rollei >> viewfinder screen, anti-glare treatment of the mirror box and the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ;-) that's the beauty of the Arax gear: it's got all that done already. > Q.G. de Bakker wrote,on my timestamp of 17/04/2008 1:02 AM: > > Strikes me as if there were a few things you thought were in need of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that's the beauty of the Arax gear: it's got > all that done already. Is he still at his stupid crusade? Wouldn't even have noticed if it hadn't been through your quoting him. QG's been one of the crown jewels of my killfile for many years. :-) Ralf SignatureRalf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses > Is he still at his stupid crusade? Wouldn't even have noticed if it > hadn't been through your quoting him. QG's been one of the crown jewels > of my killfile for many years. :-) Have i? Have we 'had words' before? I can't remember. But anyway: you can't help but notice the shipload of irony sitting between "perfectly" on the one hand, and the list of things you have had done to the camera on the other. Or let me put it another way: how does "perfect(ly)" and a need for "anti-glare treatment of the mirror box" (to pick one from your list) go together? Sounds like Zot got the even more perfect camera, Ralf, when he bought his from Arax. But shame on you, Zot, for mentioning that. You must be on a stupid crusade, else you wouldn't have! ;-) > Have i? Have we 'had words' before? I can't remember. For goodness sake don't turn this newsgroup into a rec.photo.equipment.35mm clone. Chill... Signaturehttp://www.petezilla.co.uk > For goodness sake don't turn this newsgroup into a rec.photo.equipment.35mm > clone. There's a simple remedy: killfile or ignore him. This guy is the quintessential troll. The few remaining oldtimers in this newsgroup thank heavens we've seen the end of his eternal stupid fights with Kievgurl. Now, please, don't feed him again. Or if you must, at least stop quoting him. Been so nice and quiet here for a long time. Thanks. Ralf SignatureRalf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses > There's a simple remedy: killfile or ignore him. This guy is the > quintessential troll. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Or if you must, at least stop quoting him. Been so nice and quiet here > for a long time. Thanks. Now where is all this anger coming from? Are we suposed to agree, or get lost? Is this still you, Ralf? I knew a very different one once. Ah well. Whatever you think you remember, it will not make it easier to reconcile "perfect" with a need for "anti-glare [etcetera]". And if you don't want to be "chalenged", just don't say silly things. Your "don't feel the trolls" diversion is pathetic. On Apr 18, 4:16 am, Peter Chant <REMpete...@CAPpetezilla.ITALSco.uk> wrote: > > Have i? Have we 'had words' before? I can't remember. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --http://www.petezilla.co.uk Agreed. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Zot <wiz_au@yahoo.com.au> saying something like: >Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo? Sorry, I'm a bit late to this party. I've been using a P6 and a Flek 50/4 with decent results. With an adapter I use it on a Mamiya 645J and am quite pleased with it. It also shows up much more modern glass when used on smaller format and digital SLRs. SignatureDave Grimly Curmudgeon wrote,on my timestamp of 18/08/2008 10:58 PM: >> Anyone else had luck with this camera/lens combo? > > Sorry, I'm a bit late to this party. Better late than never! :) > I've been using a P6 and a Flek 50/4 with decent results. With an > adapter I use it on a Mamiya 645J and am quite pleased with it. > It also shows up much more modern glass when used on smaller format and > digital SLRs. Yeah, I'm amazed by that lens. Incredible quality for very low price, really. Haven't tried it on smaller formats, but there is a 180/2.8 Sonnar on my way now and it comes with a Nikon adapter: that's gonna get some use for sure, besides the MF gear! The folks at APUG are also quite keen on the Flek, for very good reasons I'm sure. This: http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narra%20park01.jpg and this: http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/narramouth03.jpg were taken with it, hand-held, Ekta100. On the original scan, the faces of the folks on the other side of the water are clearly visible. |
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