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Why I like mechanical cameras and film.

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Stacey - 07 Oct 2003 08:14 GMT
I enjoy using mechanical cameras.  I love the sounds they make. I like the
feel of the innards moving when I change speeds. I want to be able to wind
the film to the next frame with a lever or a knob. I like to focus the
camera myself. I actually find a red window that lets me see the backing
paper a cool thing. I enjoy using stuff that feels like it was made before
I was born as it makes me feel not quite so old.

Going out using the camera is the part I enjoy. I could spend the next 2
years printing negatives yet instead I go shoot more film. I enjoy going
out and looking for things to photograph. Visiting the same spot looking
for a new way to see it. Looking at the world in this capsulated 2D way
that only a camera's ground glass can do. Seeing the small details that I
would otherwise miss. Trying to envision the world as shades of gray
instead of colors. Getting a nice smile out of an old woman at the park
while shooting with an old folder knowing the sight of it brought back some
fond memory. I would enjoy all of this even if there was no film in the
camera.

Then there is the fun of picking up the developed film and seeing what
happened good or bad. I love slide film as it doesn't lie. It's so
unforgiving and I'm always nervous if I exposed it right. Sometimes I don't
but that's part of the fun. Then, when using soviet cameras, I always have
to wonder if the camera came through as well! Finding the problems and
making these work just adds to the pleasure and sense of accomplishment
when things turn out good.  

Other senses get involved as well, for me it's mainly the sounds. I actually
hunted down an old tower slide projector like we had when I was a child and
just the sounds it makes when changing slides gives me a warm fuzzy
feeling. I don't think I would enjoy a camera that didn't make some fun
noises when it's operating. Maybe that's why I like my newest Hartblei so
much? It makes wonderful sounds when I fire it that years from now will
remind me of this part of my life.

I don't like shooting digital. Having a confirmation view of what I just
shot removes all the fun. It's like knowing what you're getting for
Christmas a week before and then trying to act excited when you open the
present. I like the mystery of not being sure I'm going to get what I want
and the good feelings I have when I do. I don't like the idea of the image
being stored as ones and zeros. This sanitary digital storage feels too
much like a hospital with it's digital artifacts instead of grain. I don't
like a camera that makes no sounds.

Is any of this rational? Of course not and if my goal was only to produce
images I would be fighting the most efficient way of doing it. But that
isn't my only goal and no one is paying me to do this. I do this for fun
and I don't think I would enjoy capturing images electronically even if it
was just electronics controlling the camera.

That said, I think I'm going to load some 220 ektachrome in my Pentacon-6
and find something to shoot in the morning. :-)
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Tom Thackrey - 07 Oct 2003 17:34 GMT
> Then there is the fun of picking up the developed film and seeing what
> happened good or bad. I love slide film as it doesn't lie. It's so
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> making these work just adds to the pleasure and sense of accomplishment
> when things turn out good.

You're missing half the fun. Do your own processing.

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redcat - 08 Oct 2003 06:25 GMT
Stacey,
you have articulated almost all that i have felt shooting with the
oldie-goldies.
Though i own only a humble old c330, its a joy!

But the only thing that ruins my fun of shooting, and picking up film is the
part where you shell out your lunch and date money to pay for it all.
It sucks being an impoverished student.

sri

> I enjoy using mechanical cameras.  I love the sounds they make. I like the
> feel of the innards moving when I change speeds. I want to be able to wind
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> That said, I think I'm going to load some 220 ektachrome in my Pentacon-6
> and find something to shoot in the morning. :-)
Glenn Booth - 09 Oct 2003 06:42 GMT
Stacey;  you said it better than I could have. I'm still using a C33
that I bought new in  1965. I have an RZ67 and Nikon D100, but the joy
is in using the old twinlens even though it doesn't make very much noise.

Regards....Glenn Booth

> I enjoy using mechanical cameras.  I love the sounds they make. I like the
> feel of the innards moving when I change speeds. I want to be able to wind
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> That said, I think I'm going to load some 220 ektachrome in my Pentacon-6
> and find something to shoot in the morning. :-)
dr bob - 09 Oct 2003 12:12 GMT
No equipment I use has a battery except my meter, which has one (1) AA-cell.
Truly, dr bob.

> Stacey;  you said it better than I could have. I'm still using a C33
> that I bought new in  1965. I have an RZ67 and Nikon D100, but the joy
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> > That said, I think I'm going to load some 220 ektachrome in my Pentacon-6
> > and find something to shoot in the morning. :-)
geo - 14 Oct 2003 19:06 GMT
You go girl. Well put. Photography can be like golf; an excuse to get out
and smell the grass. I like nothing better with a nice walk than the
KER-PLUNK of my Bronica EC-TL shutter.

Natural Light Black and White Photography
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-George-

> I enjoy using mechanical cameras.  I love the sounds they make. I like the
> feel of the innards moving when I change speeds. I want to be able to wind
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> That said, I think I'm going to load some 220 ektachrome in my Pentacon-6
> and find something to shoot in the morning. :-)
Hickster0711 - 15 Oct 2003 12:52 GMT
Nice article. Out of the countless cameras i've had in the last 30 yrs. there's
nothing that works, for me, as well as a my Rollei 3.5 E. I picked up a digital
once, and put it right back down. Just didn't feel like photography. Actually
had an AF once. Spent more time trying to turn off "features" than taking
pictures. E-Bay. The whole problem with cameras like Rollei's is; there's
nothing to talk about..All they do is take pictures.         Bob Hickey
Michael Scarpitti - 15 Oct 2003 23:16 GMT
> Nice article. Out of the countless cameras i've had in the last 30 yrs. there's
> nothing that works, for me, as well as a my Rollei 3.5 E. I picked up a digital
> once, and put it right back down. Just didn't feel like photography. Actually
> had an AF once. Spent more time trying to turn off "features" than taking
> pictures. E-Bay. The whole problem with cameras like Rollei's is; there's
> nothing to talk about..All they do is take pictures.         Bob Hickey

Then you should find a Leica M, or perhaps a CL, even nore satisfying, no?
Hickster0711 - 16 Oct 2003 02:42 GMT
What would be the point? The pictures wouldn't compare.               Bob
Hickey
Bandicoot - 18 Oct 2003 04:21 GMT
> What would be the point? The pictures wouldn't compare.               Bob
> Hickey

What pictures?    ;-)

Peter
Stacey - 16 Oct 2003 03:50 GMT
> hickster0711@aol.com (Hickster0711) wrote in message
>> Nice article. Out of the countless cameras i've had in the last 30 yrs.
>> there's nothing that works, for me, as well as a my Rollei 3.5 E.
>
> Then you should find a Leica M, or perhaps a CL, even nore satisfying, no?

No.
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Karl Winkler - 19 Oct 2003 21:24 GMT
> I enjoy using mechanical cameras.  I love the sounds they make.

Stacey,

Nicely put, thanks for the inspiration! I always try to keep my eyes
open for photographic opportunities, and also interesting cameras.
I've got a section of my web site covering some of the cameras I own
or have used...

http://pages.cthome.net/karlwinkler/Cameras.html

Most are mechanical and all shoot film. My oldest camera is an Ica
from 1922 which shoots onto 9x12cm cut film and uses an uncoated 150mm
Zeiss Tessar lens... The images from this camera are sublime....

Regards,

-Karl
Jef - 28 Oct 2003 03:43 GMT
> I enjoy using mechanical cameras.  I love the sounds they make. I like the
> feel of the innards moving when I change speeds. I want to be able to wind
> the film to the next frame with a lever or a knob. I like to focus the
> camera myself. I actually find a red window that lets me see the backing
> paper a cool thing. I enjoy using stuff that feels like it was made before
> I was born as it makes me feel not quite so old.

Very nicely put. I am married to the gelatine silver result. There is
something about a good B&W print made from a great film that digital
will never come close to, no matter how many megapixels it is. They
are two different mediums as far as I am concerned, like comparing
sketching to painting. I am definately no Luddite, I know computers
better than most - check out my web site if you have a doubt.
(Shameless plug, I know.) Then again, I buy every new release of
completely computer generated music on vinyl I can, so perhaps I am.
:)

Jeff
http://inDigital.ca
 
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