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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Medium format / August 2007Fuji GSW-690 III 6x9
with EBC Fujinon-SW 65mm f/5.6 lens eBay: http://301url.com/Fuji_GSW690 Ted <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> spammed: Ted, This is not (!) a marketplace group. Thank you. >Ted <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> spammed: > >Ted, > >This is not (!) a marketplace group. >Thank you. Yeah, we're just overwhelmed with traffic here. <snerk> rafe b www.terrapinphoto.com >>Ted <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> spammed: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yeah, we're just overwhelmed with traffic here. <snerk> Really. I'd rather to see adds for cameras that I'd actually like than irrelevant spam. Hey, Ted: Good luck finding a home for your GSW690. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan >> "Raphael Bustin" <rafeb@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> Yeah, we're just overwhelmed with traffic here. <snerk> > > Really. I'd rather to see adds for cameras that I'd actually like than > irrelevant spam. So why don't you both subscribe to the marketplace group? > Hey, Ted: Good luck finding a home for your GSW690. And restrict posting your ads to marketplace groups. > with EBC Fujinon-SW 65mm f/5.6 lens > eBay: http://301url.com/Fuji_GSW690 Winning bid $1,253.89 > Winning bid $1,253.89 It seems these mechanical Fuji rangefinders hold their value well. As for me, I am keeping my GW690III and GSW690III (and recently got a nice Gossen Digisix from Ebay, so I'll be not forced to carry my Canon 35mm camera for taking light measurements). Cheers, N.F. >> Winning bid $1,253.89 > > It seems these mechanical Fuji rangefinders hold their value well. The theory that MF cameras/lenses are getting cheaper seems to only apply to cameras that no one would want. (Actually, Pentax 67 lenses are quite reasonable at KEH: a three lens P67 kit would be cheap by Hasselblad/Mamiya 7 prices. But other than that...) > As for me, I am keeping my GW690III and GSW690III (and recently got a nice > Gossen Digisix from Ebay, so I'll be not forced to carry my Canon 35mm > camera for taking light measurements). The Fujis completely disappeared from the used stores here right after they were discontinued and were just beginning to reappear a year or two ago. At the point that they were finally available and I had a bit of spare cash, I found that I liked the Mamiya 7 better. The lack of lens interchangeability put me off, but the price of the Mamiya lens I want (the 43/4.5) means that I have what is essentially a fixed lens camera. Oops. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan >>> Winning bid $1,253.89 >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > David J. Littleboy > Tokyo, Japan I would echo that sentiment about cameras no one would want! I sold Mamiya RZ67 Pro-II system components earlier this year and while I got market values for all the equipment, the market values are low. It's a big, clunky piece of studio gear. and the studios (mine included) need the lower cost and faster turnaround of digital. Film seems to have become an expensive luxury. Sic transit gloria. Ray >>>> Winning bid $1,253.89 >>> It seems these mechanical Fuji rangefinders hold their value well. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ray Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* <snip> MF cameras/lenses are getting cheaper </snip> > Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* Not from me any more ;-) But if you really wanted the RZ system, check eBay. Most of them are studio cameras and are well cared for, having been locked on tripods for years. Very little hand-held work -- it's like trying to focus a bowling ball! > <snip> MF cameras/lenses are getting cheaper </snip> >> Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > years. Very little hand-held work -- it's like trying to focus a bowling > ball! Wow! First item in MF gear: RZ with 110mm lens, waist finder and film back. $260 - about £126! That's about what I paid for my first ME Super. A lot of camera for little money. >> <snip> MF cameras/lenses are getting cheaper </snip> >>> Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > A lot of camera for little money. It is a great camera system, and the bellows/lens combination produces a very painterly looking image. I loved my RZ systems; I just couldn't justify the expense of film. And the combination of good-enough quality with immediate digital results is compelling to clients. But if you're able to use film in a mostly manual studio camera, the RZ67 Pro-II that I used was just sweet. >>> <snip> MF cameras/lenses are getting cheaper </snip> >>>> Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > able to use film in a mostly manual studio camera, the RZ67 Pro-II that I > used was just sweet. Next bonus, if I can get it past the wife, I'll have a punt. > Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* Both the RB and RZ _older_ models have been reasonably cheap for a long time. But good condition lenses and recent kits are still noticeable money. If you don't mind not getting the 110/2.8, US$500 or so will get you a nice RB or RZ 127/3.8 kit from KEH. Maybe less if you are less auction BS averse than I. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan >> Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > David J. Littleboy > Tokyo, Japan Isn't there one of the more recent ones that will take a digital back? I still shoot film (along with digital), and I intend to continue to do so, but I'd like to look to the future as well. >>> Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I still shoot film (along with digital), and I intend to continue to > do so, but I'd like to look to the future as well. The RZ67 Pro-II works with digital backs; there is a newer incarnation of the body that is specifically designed to communicate settings to the digital back. Since the digital backs for the RZ were very expensive, it made more sense for me to unload the RZ and invest the money in DSLR. I think you can find more on the Mamiya web site. Ray >>>> Oo does that mean I could pick up an RZ for peanuts? *joy* >>> Both the RB and RZ _older_ models have been reasonably cheap for a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Ray Well, I was thinking about maybe getting one for film and waiting until the digital backs came down to affordable prices ... or not if it doesn't happen. Well, having both Fujis means that I have wideangle and normal lenses available at the same time. Their price was essentially "you get a VERY nice lens at a reasonable price, and we'll throw in a free body to go permanently with that lens" :-) I have seen that even the 6*7 version is pretty high in price (sometimes I am tempted to go after a GW670III, but I really don't like the 6*7 format). Since I mostly shoot trains or landscapes, the 6*9 format suits me fine. I am shooting even in-house my nephews with the GW690III (the GSW 65mm/5.6 lens is too slow for interior scenes). By the way, does anyone use flash with the GW690 and GSW690? I tried my Canon 550EX (hoped to use it as a dumb flash in manual mode), but it doesn't fire. It seems I'll have to get a thyristor flash (something like Vivitar 293, I guess?), and I would like to hear experiences. Cheers, N.F. > Well, having both Fujis means that I have wideangle and normal lenses > available at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Cheers, > N.F. Is there no PC sync on the Canon flash? My Nikon speedlights all work PC to PC, as it were, in auto or manual modes. (Not on a Fuji, mind you, but on a Mamiya 6, an RB67, and with my large format lenses, too.) -- www.mattclara.com > Is there no PC sync on the Canon flash? My Nikon speedlights all work PC > to PC, as it were, in auto or manual modes. (Not on a Fuji, mind you, but on > a Mamiya 6, an RB67, and with my large format lenses, too.) Unfortunately, the 550 EX has no PC sync socket as far as I know. Neither the 580EX (the 580EX II has a PC sync). So, it seems I'll have to find an adapter or send my 550EX for modification (pricey and messy), or I'll have to invest in an older flash model. That's yet one more minus of using Canon flashes, I guess... N.F. >> Well, having both Fujis means that I have wideangle and normal lenses >> available at the same time. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > PC, as it were, in auto or manual modes. (Not on a Fuji, mind you, but on a > Mamiya 6, an RB67, and with my large format lenses, too.) I think Nikon's the only manufacturer that still puts PC sockets on their flashes ... other than the Vivitar 285HV (still/back in production?) which takes a Vivitar specific plug on the flash end. I think Nikon's the only manufacturer that still puts a PC socket on their new cameras. > I think Nikon's the only manufacturer that still puts PC sockets on > their flashes ... other than the Vivitar 285HV (still/back in > production?) which takes a Vivitar specific plug on the flash end. Handle-mount Metz flashes have pc cords and hotshoe adapters; their non-dedicated shoe-mount flashes also have pc cords. And that doesn't count the heavy iron of studio flash (Bowens, Dyna-Lite, Norman, Novatron, Profoto, Speedotron, etc.) None of my MF equipment has TTL flash metering, so on the very few occasions I use a flash I have to meter it just like any other light source. --nicco >> I think Nikon's the only manufacturer that still puts PC sockets on >> their flashes ... other than the Vivitar 285HV (still/back in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > --nicco Yeah, but they were talking about trying to use a dedicated Canon Flash intended for DSLRs. > Is there no PC sync on the Canon flash? My Nikon speedlights all work PC to > PC, as it were, in auto or manual modes. (Not on a Fuji, mind you, but on a > Mamiya 6, an RB67, and with my large format lenses, too.) I suspect that one of the pin pairs is a de facto PC sync. You just to need to figure out which, make an adaptor (from an old Canon body which would also tell you which pins) and then set the power manually on the flash. Or other ways... (following is for the 580) http://blog.rrdphoto.com/2007/04/how-to-add-sync-port-to-canon-580ex.html If you read that very carefully you can probably figure out which pins on your canon flash need to be wired to your MF PC sync. I need to get to this for my 'blad with my Minolta flashes... Cheers, Alan  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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