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atippett@aol.com - 24 Dec 2006 21:58 GMT
There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
Ebay.  If the problems are so great why not return to
rec.photo.equipment.....
It has worked for me in the past.

Alan Tippett
Q.G. de Bakker - 24 Dec 2006 22:26 GMT
> There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
> Ebay.  If the problems are so great why not return to
> rec.photo.equipment.....
> It has worked for me in the past.

Better not "return" to any rec.photo.equipment group. The marketplace
thingies are for that sort of stuff.
siralbabin@aol.com - 25 Dec 2006 00:43 GMT
> atipp...@aol.com wrote:
> > There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
> > Ebay. If the problems are so great why not return to
> > rec.photo.equipment.....
> > It has worked for me in the past.Better not "return" to any rec.photo.equipment group. The marketplace
> thingies are for that sort of stuff.

The newsgroups aren't what they used to be.  Same crooks on ebay would
have a field day on the fs groups.  Best to buy locally in person but
odds are you won't find it when you need it and if you're living in the
sticks forget about it.
Far as ebay is concerned, you have to look at feedback and ask
questions.  If seller won't answer specific questions then bid at your
own peril.  There are many honest, reputable sellers on ebay and you
have to have faith.
Cordially,
Al
Pudentame - 25 Dec 2006 15:53 GMT
>> atipp...@aol.com wrote:
>>> There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
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> Cordially,
> Al

If you want a good mail order alternative to eBay, I'd suggest KEH
Camera in Atlanta, GA.

    http://www.keh.com

They have a very conservative rating scheme for equipment and everything
I've ever purchased from them was under-rated (i.e. they rated it as EX
when what I received appeared to meet their criteria for EX+ ...).

They have a *very* wide selection of used camera equipment and
accessories; probably the widest around.

Plus you don't have the aggravation of not knowing how much it's going
to cost in the end or having to wait until the end of the auction only
to have someone out bid you.
Noons - 26 Dec 2006 22:05 GMT
> If you want a good mail order alternative to eBay, I'd suggest KEH
> Camera in Atlanta, GA.
>
>      http://www.keh.com

I'll second this.  Had a near bad experience with them,
they sent me the wrong item.  But to their credit, they
replaced it with the correct one and refunded the postage
cost to send the bad item back.

Now, try to get that sort of service from an ebay dealer?
Not saying one can't, but there is a lot of air in betweem
those, in ebay...

If anything I'd say KEH is conservative in their rating system:
the stuff they sent me was rated "bargain" and quite frankly,
anyone else would rate it "good".

Add to that I'm halfway across the globe and they still
honoured their deal.  So yes: use them if you're
not happy with ebay dealers.
chasfs - 26 Dec 2006 23:29 GMT
> > If you want a good mail order alternative to eBay, I'd suggest KEH
> > Camera in Atlanta, GA.
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> honoured their deal.  So yes: use them if you're
> not happy with ebay dealers.

I've had wonderful experiences dealing with KEH.  They make
things right and are honest. I occasionally buy on eBay, but
the last time I got a used lens from one of the New York firms
that you all know, I was disappointed.

Peace,
-chasfs
http://chasfs.com
Dave - 28 Dec 2006 14:15 GMT
>>> If you want a good mail order alternative to eBay, I'd suggest KEH
>>> Camera in Atlanta, GA.
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> -chasfs
> http://chasfs.com

You "guys" should give Cameta Camera a try. The have both a "brick &
mortar" store and an Ebay store and are as honest as can be. I have been
doing business with them for the better part of 20 years and have only
had to test their customer service once and that was with a brand new
D200 which was replaced immediately totally at their expense.

I also have done several transactions (one of which is in transit as I
write this) with KEH and have found them both honest, fair and very
reasonable to deal with.

hope this helps,
Dave
Tony  Polson - 28 Dec 2006 20:54 GMT
>You "guys" should give Cameta Camera a try. The have both a "brick &
>mortar" store and an Ebay store and are as honest as can be. I have been
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>write this) with KEH and have found them both honest, fair and very
>reasonable to deal with.

I agree with Dave's recommendations for Cameta Camera and KEH.  

I have had many dealings with both.  From experience I know that,
while everything goes smoothly most of the time, on the occasions when
things go wrong, they make a lot of effort to sort out the problem to
the customer's satisfaction.
darkroommike - 02 Jan 2007 16:00 GMT
Ditto! also sick of lurkers with sniper programs that outbid
you in the last 30 seconds of an auction, and the ridiculous
freight that some vendors charge.  I now total up what the
same item costs new from B&H or used from KEH with freight
to my front door and will bid only 50% of that amount from
eBay.  (Maybe 75% from a KEH BGN price.)  But that's it,
period.  I don't get a lot of goodies anymore but my
frustration level is WAY down.
darkroommike

>>> atipp...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
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> to cost in the end or having to wait until the end of the auction only
> to have someone out bid you.
Michael - 03 Jan 2007 04:25 GMT
> Ditto! also sick of lurkers with sniper programs that outbid you in the
> last 30 seconds of an auction, and the ridiculous freight that some
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> WAY down.
> darkroommike

What is the difference between a snipped bid at a live auction or on eBay?
Q.G. de Bakker - 03 Jan 2007 06:32 GMT
> What is the difference between a snipped bid at a live auction or on eBay?

No difference.
What does it matter when a bid is placed anyway? You know what you are
willing to pay, so bid that. If anyone outbids you, that's because he or she
is willing to pay more than you. So you lose. What's there to complain
about?

But what has this all to do with medium format photography?
Get to the marketplace groups with this discussion!
Michael - 04 Jan 2007 02:52 GMT
>> What is the difference between a snipped bid at a live auction or on
>> eBay?
>
> No difference.
> What does it matter when a bid is placed anyway? You know what you are
> willing to pay, so bid that.
My point exactly.
Duncan - 04 Jan 2007 06:57 GMT
Buying at an auction is a simple equation.

How much does it costs best price elsewhere.

Decide what is a reasonable price below this price to be acceptable to you
to forego any backup and warrenty from a dealer. Don't forget postal costs.

Then stick to your final price you set for yourself.

If you get it great if not then you have saved money.

Duncan
Neal Currie - 11 Jan 2007 20:12 GMT
How do you know they are using programs? I ONLY bid inside the last
minute of an auction. I'll usually place two bids - one cheap probe bid
to see if the high bidder has given themselves a buffer, and if that
fails, I'll put in my max value with 15seconds left or so. I always get
shipping costs before I bid as well.

> Ditto! also sick of lurkers with sniper programs that outbid
> you in the last 30 seconds of an auction, and the ridiculous
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> frustration level is WAY down.
> darkroommike
bob - 29 Dec 2006 04:58 GMT
hehehehe   the same trolling to the one place,  I mean for free...

> There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
> Ebay.  If the problems are so great why not return to
> rec.photo.equipment.....
> It has worked for me in the past.
>
> Alan Tippett
MLIDDELL - 31 Dec 2006 15:49 GMT
On Dec 24, 9:58 pm, "atipp...@aol.com" <atipp...@aol.com> wrote:
> There has been a great deal of talk about problems people have had with
> Ebay.  If the problems are so great why not return to
> rec.photo.equipment.....
> It has worked for me in the past.
>
> Alan Tippett

I live in the UK, plus ebay/paypal give you some help in teh event of
fraud.
 
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