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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Medium format / December 2006Mystery Photo
There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of Photoshop so it should be a bit of a challenge to tell how it was made. The original sized image is available as a link from that page, but its 13MB, so download at your own risk. Can you identify the camera, lens, etc. that were used to make this image? There are clues, but I promise you - you'll be very surprised by the answers! Peace, -chasfs http://chasfs.com > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > lens, etc. that were used to make this image? There are clues, but I > promise you - you'll be very surprised by the answers! Looks like a high-res scan from 35mm slide film. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan Any thoughts on film, scanner, or lens? > Looks like a high-res scan from 35mm slide film. > > David J. Littleboy > Tokyo, Japan > Any thoughts on film, scanner, or lens? Provia 100F (from the slight blue cast in the sky/background), Minolta 5400 (from the file size), towards, but not at, the long end of a 28-75mm zoom. Am I way off? David J. Littleboy davidjl@guessing.wildly.com Tokyo, Japan >> Looks like a high-res scan from 35mm slide film. >> >> David J. Littleboy >> Tokyo, Japan Yes, you are way off. So far the only thing that you've correctly identified is that it is slide film. > > Any thoughts on film, scanner, or lens? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >> David J. Littleboy > >> Tokyo, Japan > Yes, you are way off. So far the only thing that you've correctly > identified is that it is slide film. And I was about to doubt that, since there's some colored speckles in some of the lighter tones<g>. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan >> > Any thoughts on film, scanner, or lens? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> David J. Littleboy >> >> Tokyo, Japan > > Yes, you are way off. So far the only thing that you've correctly > > identified is that it is slide film. > > And I was about to doubt that, since there's some colored speckles in some > of the lighter tones<g>. Those speckles are significant. More clues about the film are available in my prior postings to this newsgroup. Peace, -chasfs http://chasfs.com > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. What's mysterious? That it's poorly focused? Accidental composition? > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -chasfs > http://chasfs.com I take it back. It's not that badly focused. Thank you, j. I did as well as I could with no AF available. > I take it back. It's not that badly focused. > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -chasfs > http://chasfs.com Looks like a 4000 ppi scan from a 645 camera. No shadow detail so it looks a lot like slide film of some kind. Scott Hi Scott, You have correctly identified the precision of the scan and that it is slide film. It is not a 645 camera. Care to guess which slide film, camera, lens, shutter speed, etc.? Peace, -chasfs http://chasfs.com > Looks like a 4000 ppi scan from a 645 camera. > No shadow detail so it looks a lot like slide film of some kind. > > Scott > Hi Scott, > > You have correctly identified the precision of the scan and that it is > slide film. It is not a 645 camera. Care to guess which slide film, > camera, lens, shutter speed, etc.? It does not match any film I know but is not too far from 128 film, but then that has not been used for more then 60 years so that does not seem very likely. It could be some camera using 70mm film stock, but then I don't know of any still camera that used that fromat. The Height is right for 120 or 220 film so I am guessing that is the most likely, but it is even too narrow for 645. Not knowing the format I can't even begain to guess the camera. I would guess the lens to be between 50 and 80mm and shot at around f/5.6 to f/8, shutter speed of at least 1/250 I would say, but most of that is a wild a.s guess. Scott Hi Scott, Your reasoning is sound, and it is 120 format film. This is the medium format newsgroup, after all! When I took this photo, someone stepped out in front of me just as I pressed the shutter release, so I cropped them out. I apologize for not stating this earlier. That's the only manipulation made, other than output to JPG for a smaller downloadable image. More clues about equipment are available in my previous postings to this newsgroup and on chasfs.com. -chasfs > > Hi Scott, > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Scott > Hi Scott, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > image. More clues about equipment are available in my previous > postings to this newsgroup and on chasfs.com. Well that makes the film pretty easy Provia 400F push to ISO 1600. Says my guess for shutter speed is likely on the rather low side and we are more likely looking at 1/1000 sec. For a camera how about a SMC Pentax 67 with a 55mm lens? Scott Bingo on the film and camera! Amazing for ASA 1600, I think. > Well that makes the film pretty easy Provia 400F push to ISO 1600. > Says my guess for shutter speed is likely on the rather low side and we > are more likely looking at 1/1000 sec. > For a camera how about a SMC Pentax 67 with a 55mm lens? > > Scott > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -chasfs > http://chasfs.com Pentax 6x7 Fuji Velvia 50 Lens 90mm or less > > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > Pentax 6x7 Fuji Velvia 50 Lens 90mm or less Correct camera! 5 stops to slow for the film. Much longer lens (and heavier) lens. I guess you were hoping to get the reflection of the fire truck in the shop window to the right when somebody walked by and spoiled the shot and for that sort of shot then a telephoto lens is less intrusive so I guess you were using a Pentax 67 with a Pentax 165mm lens. There is a lot of detail on the shot but it looks grainy to me so I'd guess at a 200 speed Ektachrome film. Just guessing. > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -chasfs > http://chasfs.com Good guesses! Shot at a much higher speed, and a longer lens, hand held. > I guess you were hoping to get the reflection of the fire truck in the > shop window to the right when somebody walked by and spoiled the shot [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Just guessing. > There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a > photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -chasfs > http://chasfs.com I'm guessing a longish lens (about 135 TO 150mm) on a 645 of some kind. Shaddows and grain suggest slide film, such as Kodak E100. The file print res was set at 4000 (in the 13 MB file) which is a characteristic of the Nikon 8000 / 9000 scan s/w. Alan  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. Guess even longer on the lens, bigger on the camera and 4 stops faster on the film. My scanner is similar, but doesn't have digital ICE. > I'm guessing a longish lens (about 135 TO 150mm) on a 645 of some kind. > Shaddows and grain suggest slide film, such as Kodak E100. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Alan >There's a new page up at http://chasfs.com/fireman.py which contains a >photo that I took the other day. I've saved it with an old version of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >-chasfs >http://chasfs.com Kodak Box Brownie ! ! Thank you all for playing along. I've updated http://chasfs.com/fireman.py with the details about how the mystery photo was made. My conclusion - Fuji Provia 400F pushed to ASA 1600 gives amazing results. Peace, -chasfs http://chasfs.com |
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