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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Medium format / November 2006Can you spot the Hasselblad?
The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asphttp://www.dpreview.com /news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp -- Lassi > The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asphttp://www.dpreview.com /news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp > > -- Lassi Your posted URL is bad. Here's the right one: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp I have no idea who that "special" customer is who ordered the lens but I'm pretty sure he's a billionaire. At any rate, I'm not impressed, rather sad that so much money is wasted on such trivia when the needs of millions are ignored. So a hassy with one of those is almost the weight of an RB67? > > The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. > >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asphttp://www.d... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > At any rate, I'm not impressed, rather sad that so much money is wasted > on such trivia when the needs of millions are ignored. >So a hassy with one of those is almost the weight of an RB67? Harrr harrr...you have amused an RB owner. :) >>http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp If you buy two you get a free roll of film.  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >> The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asphttp://www.dpreview.com /news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >At any rate, I'm not impressed, rather sad that so much money is wasted >on such trivia when the needs of millions are ignored. Well boo f.cking hoo, cry us a river will ya'? > Your posted URL is bad. Here's the right one: > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp > > I have no idea who that "special" customer is who ordered the lens but > I'm pretty sure he's a billionaire. My guess is the customer is Al Jazeera. >> I have no idea who that "special" customer is who ordered the lens but >> I'm pretty sure he's a billionaire. > > My guess is the customer is Al Jazeera. For spotting and documenting "Buka" infractions. > > The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asphttp://www.dpreview.com /news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > At any rate, I'm not impressed, rather sad that so much money is wasted > on such trivia when the needs of millions are ignored. This shot from the zeiss.de site shows a label stating State of Quatar (far right, bottome third of image): http://tinyurl.com/s3a7v The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. So probably only one lens is made. The lens at photokina is probably an empty shell......the wires also looks to tiny to carry 256 kg.......and if it was a real lens......stupid to hang it up.......so people can't look into it. Max Bob G wrote: > Lassi Hippeläinen wrote: > > The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > At any rate, I'm not impressed, rather sad that so much money is wasted > on such trivia when the needs of millions are ignored. This shot from the zeiss.de site shows a label stating State of Quatar (far right, bottome third of image): http://tinyurl.com/s3a7v > Bob G wrote: >> Lassi Hippeläinen wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > (far right, bottome third of image): > http://tinyurl.com/s3a7v > The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has ordered > the lens and paid the cost of develoment. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Max Yeah, the price of gas goes up, and the king gets a new lens--go figure! ;-) > The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has ordered > the lens and paid the cost of develoment. Some people collect pics of airplanes, but maybe the King prefers oil tankers? With that focal length a big tanker will fill the frame when more than 10km away. What next? Will he build a pedestal high enough to see to Iran? That would be taller than the Arabian Tower in Dubai... http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=48 -- Lassi >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. > > Some people collect pics of airplanes, but maybe the King prefers oil > tankers? With that focal length a big tanker will fill the frame when > more than 10km away. With the atmospheric disturbances, such a shot would be pretty crappy looking. Considering that the Canon 1200 mm f/5.6 goes for about $115,000 I wonder what this beast costs... Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > Considering that the Canon 1200 mm f/5.6 goes for about $115,000 I > wonder what this beast costs... More. Scott >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. > > Some people collect pics of airplanes, but maybe the King prefers oil > tankers? With that focal length a big tanker will fill the frame when > more than 10km away. Wildlife, actually: "Never before has the world of photography seen such a lens. The ZEISS Apo Sonnar T* 4/1700 was developed by Carl Zeiss for a customer with very high demands and a special interest in long distance wildlife photography." dpreview Recently, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> posted: >>> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has >>> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > very high demands and a special interest in long distance wildlife > photography." dpreview Perhaps he just likes a really narrow DOF... good luck getting those eyes in focus! Neil > Recently, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> posted: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Neil One thing to keep in mind is that this lens is being used on a MF camera so the FL is not really all that long. Most people don't do much telephoto work with MF just because the lens gets to long. This lens would not be that much different then using a 500mm lens on a 1.6 crop factor camera, and that is done all the time. Scott > much telephoto work with MF just because the lens gets to long. This > lens would not be that much different then using a 500mm lens on a 1.6 > crop factor camera, and that is done all the time. Except that he'll be shooting 56mm x 56mm film, so it's more like 900 - 950mm equivalence scanned at 4000 dpi for a 8800 x 8800 image (78 Mpix), or drum scanned at 8000 dpi for 311 Mpix... Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > > much telephoto work with MF just because the lens gets to long. This > > lens would not be that much different then using a 500mm lens on a 1.6 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 950mm equivalence scanned at 4000 dpi for a 8800 x 8800 image (78 Mpix), > or drum scanned at 8000 dpi for 311 Mpix... Or he might be one of those rare film uses who recognizes the limits of using small areas of film and will scan at 2000 ppi and get a clean image. Scott > Recently, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> posted: >>"Never before has the world of photography seen such a lens. The ZEISS >>Apo Sonnar T* 4/1700 was developed by Carl Zeiss for a customer with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Perhaps he just likes a really narrow DOF... good luck getting those eyes > in focus! Well, the sweet spot will be at f/8 .. f/11, so a little margin there... Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. Recently, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> posted: >> Recently, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> posted: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Well, the sweet spot will be at f/8 .. f/11, so a little margin > there... So, maybe his "wild life" is actually "dead", so that he has time to focus that thing? ;-) Neil > Recently, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> posted: >>>Perhaps he just likes a really narrow DOF... good luck getting those >>>eyes in focus! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So, maybe his "wild life" is actually "dead", so that he has time to focus > that thing? ;-) ... after he actually points it... Cheers, Alan Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has > >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > very high demands and a special interest in long distance wildlife > photography." dpreview Actually this Zeiss statement is hype: Canon made 5000mm lenses for the 1964 Tokyo Olympics which came with their own pedestal and seat, and had a nitrogen bottle attached so that the photographer could flush the internal environment of the lens. You could mount a canon FT on it, as well as a TV camera. When I worked in Photo-Retail in Pennsylvania in the 80-s, I had an Oil-millionaire ask me if I could find one for him... then the oil bust.... David. > >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has > >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. The December issue of Outdoor Photography apparently answers some of the questions people have asked on this group regarding the lens: "A suited executive from Zeiss told me: 'I wanted my designers to make it look like a zeppelin!'" "...Zeiss has actually sold the lens to a keen falconer, who just happens to be the son of the Emir of Qatar. According to Zeiss... [he] plans to customise a Land Rover with a turret to support the lens and his Hasselblad from the open rooftop..." "And the price for this mammoth feat of optical engineering? 'A million and a half euros!' exclaimed another delighted Zeiss executive." Simon > > >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has > > >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "A suited executive from Zeiss told me: 'I wanted my designers to make > it look like a zeppelin!'" It is not a balloon, it is a Zeppelin! > "...Zeiss has actually sold the lens to a keen falconer, who just happens > to be the son of the Emir of Qatar. According to Zeiss... [he] plans to > customise a Land Rover with a turret to support the lens and his > Hasselblad from the open rooftop..." That sounds like the Qataris, though I expect it'll actually be a Range Rover rather than a Landy. The favourite vehicle for falconry there is a six wheel Rangie, which copes with the sand like nothing else. They often have full length opening tops, and seats on hydraulic rams so the falconers can be raised through the roof while hunting. Definitely a rich man's sport. Peter >> >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has >> >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "A suited executive from Zeiss told me: 'I wanted my designers to make it > look like a zeppelin!'" I heard it was not...so there > "...Zeiss has actually sold the lens to a keen falconer, who just > happens to > be the son of the Emir of Qatar. and if it is true, it serves em right to watch him > According to Zeiss... [he] plans to > customise a Land Rover with a turret to support the lens and his [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Simon >> >> The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has >> >> ordered the lens and paid the cost of develoment. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > had a nitrogen bottle attached so that the photographer could flush the > internal environment of the lens. interesting explanation > You could mount a canon FT on it, as > well as a TV camera. When I worked in Photo-Retail in Pennsylvania in > the 80-s, I had an Oil-millionaire ask me if I could find one for > him... then the oil bust.... > > David. > The information I have is that it is the King og Quatar which has ordered > the lens and paid the cost of develoment. Qatar - no 'U'. > So probably only one lens is made. The lens at photokina is probably an > empty shell......the wires also looks to tiny to > carry 256 kg.......and if it was a real lens......stupid to hang it > up.......so people can't look into it. Yes, I thought that too, I'm sure it's a dummy. I don't suppose the new lens' owner really wanted Photokina visitors fingering his new toy, and I expect the real one is in Qatar already, or on its way. Peter What kind on tripod would you need for that thing? > What kind on tripod would you need for that thing? A truck. It comes on a mount; it's very own, built-in (or rather built-on) tripod. >The new Zeiss 1700mm/f4 weighs in at a quarter of a ton. >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asphttp://www.dpreview.com /news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp Wow! I want one with a P6 mount, my Kiev 60 would love that lens. |
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