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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Medium format / September 2006film and airport x-rays
I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does anyone have any experience or advice regarding airport baggage scanners? I think I had read somewhere that they were safe up to ISO 1000. ?? > I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a > dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does > anyone have any experience or advice regarding airport baggage > scanners? I think I had read somewhere that they were safe up to ISO > 1000. ?? Not the baggage x-rays, they will flog your film for sure . The x-ray that scans carry on is much less of a problem, still 6400 is pretty fast and might still end up somewhat fogged. Scott > I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a > dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does > anyone have any experience or advice regarding airport baggage > scanners? I think I had read somewhere that they were safe up to ISO > 1000. ?? Since you don't mention a country, I assume you are American. From http://www.tsa.gov/summer/film.htm: "... the equipment used to screen checked baggage will damage undeveloped film. You may request that high-speed and specialty film be inspected by hand at the security checkpoint." IMHO Rollei R3 counts both as high-speed and specialty. -- Lassi Recently, dmaclau@gmail.com <dmaclau@gmail.com> posted: > I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a > dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does > anyone have any experience or advice regarding airport baggage > scanners? I think I had read somewhere that they were safe up to ISO > 1000. ?? If you are travelling in the US, plan ahead so that your film doesn't have to go through x-ray at all. * Remove the film cartridges from their box and put the film in a clear plastic baggie that you'll keep with your carry-on. * Ask for hand inspection of the film. It takes a few minutes, but if you do the above to reduce the hassle factor for TSA, they are pretty cooperative. Neil > If you are travelling in the US, plan ahead so that your film doesn't have > to go through x-ray at all. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It takes a few minutes, but if you do the above to reduce the hassle > factor for TSA, they are pretty cooperative. Also: * Allow for lots of extra time, because when you ask for hand inspection of your film, you will probably get hand inspection of all your luggage, and perhaps your body, at no extra charge. Recently, Andrew Koenig <ark@acm.org> posted: >> If you are travelling in the US, plan ahead so that your film >> doesn't have to go through x-ray at all. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > inspection of your film, you will probably get hand inspection of all > your luggage, and perhaps your body, at no extra charge. I've never experienced what you describe, here. When & where did they treat you this way? Neil > Recently, Andrew Koenig <ark@acm.org> posted: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I've never experienced what you describe, here. When & where did they > treat you this way? Me neither. Indeed, one would think the last thing a terrorist would do would be call attention to themselves by asking for a hand inspection of film, so it would make sense to do the full baggage inspection on exactly the same proportion of people who ask for film to be hand inspected as those who don't - no more, no less. (More being unnecessary given the start condition, and counterproductive as it reduces the time for inspecting everyone else; less being counterproductive as it would tend to drive a change in the start condition.) Peter > > If you are travelling in the US, plan ahead so that your film doesn't have > > to go through x-ray at all. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > your film, you will probably get hand inspection of all your luggage, and > perhaps your body, at no extra charge. I did not have that experience on a recent flight however anything "Is possible".  SignatureReality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com >>If you are travelling in the US, plan ahead so that your film doesn't have >>to go through x-ray at all. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > your film, you will probably get hand inspection of all your luggage, and > perhaps your body, at no extra charge. Not my experience flying last weekend. However. I travel with 120 film removed from the boxes but still in the hermetically sealed foil wrappers, all contained in clear plastic bags. Last spring, the security agent would look at the bag, squeeze a few rolls (to see if they felt solid?) and pass me through. This time they removed every roll from the foil and ran *each and every one* through the machine in the "hand-check" area. If you are traveling with professional quantities of 120 film (50-100 rolls) you should allow an additional hour or so to clear security. They were quite cooperative. Lemuel Johnson Recently, Lemuel Johnson <lemuel@nono.ibm.com> posted: > Not my experience flying last weekend. However. I travel with 120 > film removed from the boxes but still in the hermetically sealed foil [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > roll from the foil and ran *each and every one* through the machine in > the "hand-check" area. Interesting... what kind of machine did they use? Every time TSA has gone so far as to remove my film from the foil wrappers, they swabbed them with a pad of something or other, presumably to test for explosives. No machines were involved. > If you are traveling with professional quantities of 120 film (50-100 > rolls) you should allow an additional hour or so to clear security. I'd think that travelling with these quantities would warrant shipping them ahead to wherever you're staying or buying locally. > They were quite cooperative. That has been my experience, as well. Neil > I'd think that travelling with these quantities would warrant shipping > them ahead to wherever you're staying or buying locally. La SignatureReality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com > Interesting... what kind of machine did they use? Every time TSA has gone > so far as to remove my film from the foil wrappers, they swabbed them with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'd think that travelling with these quantities would warrant shipping > them ahead to wherever you're staying or buying locally. I didn't watch them. I'd planned on a hour delay so brought a book to read at the put-your-shoes-back-on area until they finished. There are no guarantees I can find bulk quantities of 120 film to purchase in Small (or even Mid) Town America anymore in a reasonable amount of time. And traveling with the film means I *know* it hasn't been through high-power X-ray scanning. Lemuel Johnson > I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a > dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does > anyone have any experience or advice regarding airport baggage > scanners? I think I had read somewhere that they were safe up to ISO > 1000. ?? Do what others suggest about hand inspection of film in clear plastic bag within US. Other places, like Heathrow airport UK, don't assume they will even listen! In Kodak testing, ISO1600 film had to go thru about 100 times to show the slightest fogging, so that will give you an idea of the number of times your ISO6400 could go thru. As always, minimize the number of times particularly for already-exposed film! > In Kodak testing, ISO1600 film had to go thru about 100 times to show > the slightest fogging, Reference, please? > > I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a > > dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > times your ISO6400 could go thru. As always, minimize the number of > times particularly for already-exposed film! This is not at all what Kodak is saying now, this is what they are saying "If it is unavoidable that film is carried, passengers should contact the airport in advance to request hand-inspection, allow additional check-in time for such procedures, and follow the advice given below" Here is the link http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/technical/xrays_airport.jhtml Here is another referance www.i3a.org/pdf/I3AFilmXrayTestReport.pdf Scott > I am about to travel by air to board a cruise ship. I'm bringing a > dozen rolls of 120 Rollei R3 film rated at ISO of up to 6400. Does > anyone have any experience or advice regarding airport baggage > scanners? I think I had read somewhere that they were safe up to ISO > 1000. ?? Everyone - including most of the manufacturers, under pressure from government - talks about fogging. Now, ever heard of pre-flashing film to reduce contrast? Yep, you'll get reduced contrast from your film LONG before you notice any actual fogging. Peter |
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