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B+W MRC Filters - how easy to clean?

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chasfs - 16 Aug 2006 03:15 GMT
I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
they cost more and are much harder to clean than the non-MRC B+W
filters.  Does anyone have real world experience of this? Any other
filter recommendations?
Thanks!
-chasfs
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David J. Littleboy - 16 Aug 2006 03:21 GMT
> I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
> considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
> they cost more and are much harder to clean than the non-MRC B+W
> filters.  Does anyone have real world experience of this? Any other
> filter recommendations?

Use lens caps and be careful.

My experience is that "protective" filters are essentially always dirty,
since one is less careful of them than one is of one's lenses.

So your images will be sharper if you don't use them.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
Greg "_" - 16 Aug 2006 03:27 GMT
> > I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
> > considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
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> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan

Maybe so but not having a protective filter or lens cap is a bad
idea......and on can always take off the filter. Personally I don't use
UV filters....except the digital camera.
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David J. Littleboy - 16 Aug 2006 03:37 GMT
>> > I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
>> > considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
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> Maybe so but not having a protective filter or lens cap is a bad
> idea......

Notice that the first thing I said was "use lens caps".

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
Stacey - 16 Aug 2006 07:22 GMT
> "Greg "_"" <grey_egg@greg_photo.com> wrote in message

>> Maybe so but not having a protective filter or lens cap is a bad
>> idea......
>
> Notice that the first thing I said was "use lens caps".

 And a lens hood..

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chasfs - 16 Aug 2006 14:24 GMT
> > I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
> > considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan

I'm not buying these as lens protectors.  My latest slides from bright
sunny days seem to be somewhat hazy, so I really want a UV filter, for
high UV situations.

That said, does anyone have experience cleaning the B+W MRC filters?

Peace,
-chasfs
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David J. Littleboy - 16 Aug 2006 14:43 GMT
> I'm not buying these as lens protectors.  My latest slides from bright
> sunny days seem to be somewhat hazy, so I really want a UV filter, for
> high UV situations.

Oops. Sorry for the noise.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
Andreas Gugau - 16 Aug 2006 21:48 GMT
chasfs schrieb:

>>>I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
>>>considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>>Use lens caps and be careful.

> I'm not buying these as lens protectors.  My latest slides from bright
> sunny days seem to be somewhat hazy, so I really want a UV filter, for
> high UV situations.

You should think about some polarizing filters.

Andreas

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chasfs - 17 Aug 2006 18:34 GMT
> You should think about some polarizing filters.
>
> Andreas

I already have a couple of polarizing filters. I think UV is more
appropriate for my needs.  I considered a skylight filter, but have
more control in Photoshop to make color corrections just in the
shadows.  The effects of UV are much more difficult to remove.
Peace,
-chasfs
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Bart van der Wolf - 16 Aug 2006 22:00 GMT
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> I'm not buying these as lens protectors.  My latest slides from
> bright sunny days seem to be somewhat hazy, so I really want
> a UV filter, for high UV situations.
>
> That said, does anyone have experience cleaning the B+W MRC filters?

Cleaning is not any different from how I treat other coatings, on the
rare occasion they need it. When I use a filter (MRC) I generally use
a brush to remove any loose stuff, and then I use an optical grade
microfiber cloth to remove smears. If persistent, I breath on the
filter and wipe with the microfiber cloth. On occasions I have used a
lens pen, it also works fine.

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no_name - 16 Aug 2006 16:47 GMT
> I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
> considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
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> -chasfs
> http://chasfs.com

MRC is supposed to be harder than the glass the filter is made from so
that it resists scratching when cleaning. Along with water and dirt
repellancy the coating is supposed to provide, that's supposed to make
the filter easier to clean than regular filters.

Just be as careful cleaning the filter as you would be in cleaning a
lens and you should be ok.

I bang around a whole lot trying to get to where I can take the picture
I want. I've lost a lot of lens caps in the process. Never lost a filter
off the lens.

I have broken a filter or two, and I have broken a lens, although in
that case the filter didn't fail.
Tony Polson - 16 Aug 2006 21:15 GMT
>I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
>considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
>they cost more and are much harder to clean than the non-MRC B+W
>filters.  Does anyone have real world experience of this? Any other
>filter recommendations?

I use B+W MRC filters on most of my lenses and find them very easy to
clean.  They cost more because MRC is a superior multi-coating.

Ironically, the advice you were given applies perfectly to **Hoya**
HMC filters, which are almost impossible to clean without leaving
streaks.  The latest Hoya HMC Pro1 filters are just as bad.
Bandicoot - 17 Aug 2006 01:26 GMT
> I'm looking to buy a set of UV filters for my Pentax 6x7 lenses and am
> considering the B+W MRC filters.  A local camera store told me that
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> -chasfs
> http://chasfs.com

I haven't found the MRC filters to be any harder to clean than other (B+W or
other brand) filters.  Hoya's HMC does seem to make their filters harder to
clean and maybe that's what the store person was thinking of, but that
comment really is plain wrong w.r.t. the B+W MRC ones.

Other recommendation: Pentax SMC.  They are expensive, but personally I
think worth it.

Peter
 
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