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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Medium format / July 2006Advice, selling my MF for digital
Hi guys, I would like some advice from people who have transfered from MF to digital slr. Planning to get a rebel xt 8mp camera and a L lens. I use MF mostly as a point and shoot, so I am thinking to get rid of it and use digital slr. But i am hesitating because i love how MF prints to 12x15 nicely. I got the mamiya rb. Myother concern is studio work and D.O.F., is the above cameras too deep in depth of field? By far the best thing about digital is the instant image. But an instant image is useless if it is not of good quality. I have been sleepless thinking about it. Feel a little guilty quitting MF. I use mostly 8x10 and so I think I can use the digital to get shots that I cannot setup my 8x10 and it serves as a good meter. Any comments? J. > Hi guys, > > I would like some advice from people who have transfered from MF to > digital slr. Go digital. Do not look back. Do not come back here. > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > J. Comments? You use an RB67 as a Point & Shoot? That's quite a workout! Anyway, if you have checked EBAY lately, and RB67 does not go for much cash. Also, if you really just want a true P&S camera, there are several other choices with a built in lens that might be more convenient. Whether or not a certain images could make a nice 12" by 15" print would depend a little on the subject and scene. Most people are fine with less detail on a portrait, or sometimes in architecture, though for landscapes might be disappointed. A digital Rebel really is the bottom end of D-SLRs, and I would think you can do nearly as well with some better all-in-one fixed lens digital cameras, or high end compact digital, especially if you just want a P&S. Printing issues with digital can be helped with software, and not strictly PhotoShop. If you only rarely or occaissionally want larger prints, then software can get you closer. Unfortunately, no matter what math you use, a Digital Rebel will not match what your RB67 can generate. Ciao! Gordon Moat A G Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com> > Comments? You use an RB67 as a Point & Shoot? That's quite a workout! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > better all-in-one fixed lens digital cameras, or high end compact > digital, especially if you just want a P&S. Pixel for pixel the XT will produce an image that is both sharper and lower noise then a P&S and you can get a much better lens for the XT. If he buys a good L glass then in a couple of years he will likely be able to get a FF DSLR for an affordable price and the lenses would still have full value. The XT might not be on the top of the list but it is not on the bottom either, for image quality it is far better then either the D50 or the D70. There is no need to talk about the other brand IMO. > Printing issues with digital can be helped with software, and not > strictly PhotoShop. If you only rarely or occaissionally want larger > prints, then software can get you closer. Unfortunately, no matter what > math you use, a Digital Rebel will not match what your RB67 can generate. This is very true, although we all know one person who would take issue with this. For prints that are 8 x 12 or smaller the XT will be much easeir to get a good print from, meaning simply less work not that a great 8 x 12 print can not be produced from a 6 x 7 camera. > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > J. What you need it to get educated in the difference between digital and MF film. check out these web sites. I still shoot MF with a Pentax 645n for wedding and portraits. I use a Nikon D100 for quick pictures that I know will not be enlarged no more than 8x10. My advice is to get the digital but keep the 6x7. http://clarkvision.com/imagedetail/film.vs.digital.1.html http://www.diax.nl/pages/start_mamiya_nikon_uk.html http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm >What you need it to get educated in the difference between digital and >MF film. check out these web sites. I still shoot MF with a Pentax [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm Not sure about the cites but the general conclusion is sound. The very best DSLRs are now more or less a match to well- scanned 645 film. I'm thinking the Canon full-frame models and maybe even the Nikon D2x. Scanned 6x7 film (or 4x5" sheet film) gives 100 million pixels or more, and will still beat any affordable digital capture. If you've got $$$$ to burn there's always that 39 Mpix Hasselblad back. Way too rich for me. rafe b www.terrapinphoto.com > If you've got $$$$ to burn there's always that 39 Mpix > Hasselblad back. Way too rich for me. & you"ll still need a tripod to get grainless sharp images at really big print sizes.  SignatureReality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com > If you've got $$$$ to burn there's always that 39 Mpix > Hasselblad back. Way too rich for me. I think you missed a couple $. It should have been $$$,$$$ or translated to $29,999. > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > J. See if you can rent a digital camera of the type you are planning to buy for a few days. Then make your own tests. Nothing is worse then spending $1000+ and then finding you don't like the results. SignatureRobert D Feinman Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs http://robertdfeinman.com mail: robert.feinman@gmail.com > See if you can rent a digital camera of the type you are planning > to buy for a few days. Then make your own tests. Nothing is worse > then spending $1000+ and then finding you don't like the results. Exactly! Or borrow someone else's. Shoot side-by-side, Mamiya RB v. 8 megapixel SLR with quality lens. >> See if you can rent a digital camera of the type you are planning >> to buy for a few days. Then make your own tests. Nothing is worse [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Or borrow someone else's. > Shoot side-by-side, Mamiya RB v. 8 megapixel SLR with quality lens. If you can't make vastly superior 13x19 prints with the RB, you're doing something wrong, and the difference will be even larger at 16x20. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan David J. Littleboy Wrote: > "Bob G" bobjames27@sbcglobal.net wrote:[color=blue][i] > If you can't make vastly superior 13x19 prints with the RB, you'r [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > David J. Littleboy > Tokyo, Japan Really, 645 can get decent 20x30 with some shots, 12x18 is the uppe limit for me with a 10D. Keep the RB, you're not going to get much fo it, and get a 5D for your kind of shooting -- MASL > See if you can rent a digital camera of the type you are planning > to buy for a few days. Then make your own tests. Nothing is worse > then spending $1000+ and then finding you don't like the results. You could hire a digi back to fit your existing camera for a fair test. But expect to pay 150-300 GBP per day. > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > J. I make a fair number of 12x18 prints from the XT, and most people are blown away with how they look. But I find them just a bit soft for my taste. It really comes down to how close you look at the image and how good the eyes are of the person looking at the print. On this kind of thing you might be very happy with the print from the XT, unless you view it next to a print of the same scene from your MF camera in which case the print from the XT will look pretty soft in comparison when viewed closely. There are a bunch of sample photos from the XT on the web, it might be a good idea to download a few and print them out as 12x18s to get an idea of what you would be getting. When I want a higher resolution image I will stitch a few frame from either the 20D or the 250D together. 4 or 5 quick shoots will give me an image that is plenty big enough to produce a very sharp 12 x 18 inch print. A few more shots and I can get a very high res photo. Here are a few examples of what you can do with stitching, not for everyone but it does work well. http://www.sewcon.com/temp/pan2%2005-08-06%20cropped.jpg http://www.sewcon.com/temp/park.jpg Scott |
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