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are cfi and cfe lenses *very* different from earlier cf?

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Gianni Rondinini - 20 Mar 2006 18:29 GMT
i was looking to buy some swedish toys before they're completely
discontinued. i'm not sure about how much they'll last, but chances
are that hasselblad will discontinue them sooner or later to go on
with developing h[1|2|*] products.

anyway, i have found some brand new lenses of cfi and cfe series. i
would have loved to get the distagon 50, planar 80, makro 120 and
sonnar 180. one day, perhaps a sonnar 250 non-apo --i cannot even
write its price: that's too big :)
i'd go with 40 more than 50, but in my wishlist there's an swc one
day, when money will raise between carrots in my granma's vegetable
garden. what is more, if the 135-format-equivalent focal length is way
around half the focal on medium format --or something more--, 50mm
should be something between 24 and 28mm on 135 format and i think it's
enough --also because a 40 is awfully expensive compared to 50 and i
couldn't find a used one, then going with a new one would make my
cardiologist very happy--.

of course, i wouldn't get everything at once because i could never
afford it, *but* i've also found a couple of cf lenses, namely a
sonnar 180 and a distagon 50 that would make things simpler.
i know that cfi stands for cf improved and cfe is a cfi with electric
contacts (i'm planning to go with a 503cw, then i'm not sure about use
of electric contacts), but how improved is this improved design?

i'm not a pro nor a great photographer, but i wouldn't want to buy
expensive lenses ("plain" cf are cheaper compared to cfi/cfe, but
they're not cheaper at all) and then discover they are quite poor (if
you can call poor anything made by hasselblad).

well, i guess you understand that it's a matter of both real quality
and psichologic mood, the pleasure to own something that made a bit of
history of the photo.

i'll appreciate any pointer on the web or any opinion about this.

regards,
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Gianni Rondinini - 20 Mar 2006 18:37 GMT
>i'd go with 40 more than 50, but in my wishlist there's an swc one
[...]
>couldn't find a used one, then going with a new one would make my
>cardiologist very happy--.

i messed a bit the things around here. i meant:
I'd rather go with the 40 than with the 50, but there are a few things
to keep in mind: firstly my wishlist has an SWC in it, albeit in the
'when money grows in grandma's vegetable garden' category. Secondly,
if the 135-format-equivalent focal length translates to about half the
length in medium format, or a little more, 50mm would equate to
somewhere around 24-28mm in 135 format, which would suit me fine.
Finally, the 40 is very expensive compared to the 50 and what's more,
I couldn't find a used one.

thanks, as usual, in advance.

regards,
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Q.G. de Bakker - 20 Mar 2006 18:57 GMT
> i messed a bit the things around here. i meant:
> I'd rather go with the 40 than with the 50, but there are a few things
> to keep in mind: firstly my wishlist has an SWC in it, albeit in the
> 'when money grows in grandma's vegetable garden' category.

They are not that much more expensive (if at all) than 40 mm lenses...
;-)
The decision between 38 and 40 mm lens is one that should, i think, be based
on two considerations:
- Do you like/want/need reflex through-the-lens viewing, composing and
focussing? If so, get a 40 mm. It's bulkier than the SWC, but that's the
only way of retaining the fast slr-way-of-doing-things.
- Do you mind distortion (not perspective, often falsely called "wide-angle
distortion"), or could you live with the modest, though present, amounts of
distortion the retrofocus 40 mm lenses have? If not, get the SWC.

> Secondly,
> if the 135-format-equivalent focal length translates to about half the
> length in medium format, or a little more, 50mm would equate to
> somewhere around 24-28mm in 135 format, which would suit me fine.

Alas, even an 40 mm on 6x6 doesn't quite match the horizontal angle of view
of a 24 mm on 35 mm format (it's more like a 25-26 mm lens).
The 50 mm is more like a 30 mm lens on 35 mm format.

The diagonal angle of view of lenses on 6x6 may be impressive, but due to
the square shape, it doesn;t translate to equaly impressive horizontal
angles of view.
And we tend to frame/fit-our-subject-in horizontally.
Q.G. de Bakker - 20 Mar 2006 18:47 GMT
> i was looking to buy some swedish toys before they're completely
> discontinued. [...]
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> they're not cheaper at all) and then discover they are quite poor (if
> you can call poor anything made by hasselblad).

Don't worry. The CFi/CFE lenses are at least as good as the CFs.

Are they even better?
The ergonomics of them is. Stray light reduction (better baffles and
internal flat black coverings) is too.

But not by much.
;-)

CF, and even C lenses deliver very high quality images. The current crop of
CFi/CFE lenses do not make them look poor in comparison.
Gianni Rondinini - 23 Mar 2006 10:55 GMT
thanks for your replies.
i think i'll got with a couple of cf lenses.

regards,
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