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Sekonic L-558

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Stefano Bramato - 15 Jan 2005 00:50 GMT
Impressions of someone has bought this light meter?
I bought a new one just today. Seems so ok, and reading on somewher someone
says that is like "The swiss army knife" of meters but I'm not McGiver!!
i will use it because has every metering that I need, like incident plus a 1?
spot. Is a reliable meter, some impressions?

Thanks in advance!!
Stefano

PS: but I still save my my Gossen LunaPro...
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Ronin - 15 Jan 2005 13:19 GMT
> Impressions of someone has bought this light meter?

italianizziamo un po' questo newsgroup :-)

il 558 ce l'ho io, comprato a HK

? ottimo, fa veramente tutto
? solo un po' ingombrante
se cerchi minor ingombro c'? il 308 compattissimo (manca dello spot)

il tuo comunque non ? malaccio, potresti tenerlo

la precisione di 1? serve realmente solo in certi casi; il resto delle
funzioni dell'esposimetro le sfrutti se fai foto in studio

ciao
Stefano Bramato - 16 Jan 2005 14:33 GMT
> il 558 ce l'ho io, comprato a HK

Yes, I did the same and I save a lot of monet vs street price!

> ? ottimo, fa veramente tutto
> ? solo un po' ingombrante
> se cerchi minor ingombro c'? il 308 compattissimo (manca dello spot)
I don't care if this meter is just a little bit larger than usual.
But I need the spot meter too so, 588 sekonic it will be a good choice.

> il tuo comunque non ? malaccio, potresti tenerlo
Oh yes. I will not leave my Gosse LunaPro alone. It's a pleasure to work with
and has a unique feature: it's special for night shots... in fact has a low EV
range meterin (-6 EV if I remember well) that no one has!

> la precisione di 1? serve realmente solo in certi casi; il resto delle
> funzioni dell'esposimetro le sfrutti se fai foto in studio

I think that I will use the spot metering as often as possible, Ronin.
Studio features of sekonic are quite good, sometimes happens that I've to rent
a local studio romm for flashing o taking pictures of some still life.

Btw, comunque, I believe that better to have more functions for reserve than a
loss in important moment!!

Ciao!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
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Jim Phelps - 15 Jan 2005 14:29 GMT
> Impressions of someone has bought this light meter?
> I bought a new one just today. Seems so ok, and reading on somewher
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>
> PS: but I still save my my Gossen LunaPro...

Stefano,

  I'm the one who keeps calling it the Swiss Army Knife of meters.  I call
it that because it has all those functions, like a Swiss Army Knife.

  I have found the exposure to be dead accurate with Kodak Portra color
films and Plus-X and T-Max 100 B&W films in all modes to include flash.  I
have never had a problem with mine in the year or so I've been using it.  I
especially like multiple spot metering capability with automatic averaging
of those reading (up to 9).

  What do you not like about it?

Ciao,

Jim
Stefano Bramato - 16 Jan 2005 02:47 GMT
>    What do you not like about it?
>
> Ciao,
>
> Jim

Ciao Jim,
no no. Sorru form y bad english but I didn't wrote that I dont like this
meter!! Only that it's a three-world meter and I'm a Gossen aficionado.
The null metering and the exposure couples seen in a lightning are so good and
impossible to see in a digital meter. But this digital meter have so many and
different  functions that I love it!!

Thanks Jim for your words: the swiss army Knife of metering is a quite
exquisite definition!! It's better than I was far thinking!! And thisi is
sooooooo right!!

Ciao,
Stefano

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Stefano Bramato - 16 Jan 2005 14:34 GMT
>  I
> especially like multiple spot metering capability with automatic averaging
> of those reading (up to 9).

hi jim,
this features sounds quite useful expecially in difficult outdoor shots...
Is it easy to use and comprehend?

ciao,
Stefano

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Jim Phelps - 16 Jan 2005 22:19 GMT
>>  I
>> especially like multiple spot metering capability with automatic
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> ciao,
> Stefano

Ciao Stefano

Yes!  To use the feature, take your reading as normal (pressing the button
under the eye piece) and then press the memory button (under the 'lens') to
store it.  Take your other reading (again, up to a total of 9) by pressing
the read button, followed by the memory button for each spot you want to
include in the average.  There will be a number in the display that shows
how many readings you have memorized (upper left of the display).  When
you're done taking all your readings, you press the Average/^ EV button and
it displays the average.  Press the Memory Clear button to do just that
before you start another series or it will average in your old readings.
The instruction manual talks about this in chapter 6 Advanced Functions.

I usually average as many parts of the scene as possible  You don't need to
use all 9 memory positions.  Some will say to measure the brightest and the
darkest portion you want to retain detail.  That may be good advise, but if
you want to move the exposure up the scale or down, you can take multiple
reading of one or the other (bright/dark) to shift the exposure in one
direction.  For instance, if the scene has a lot of rich and necessary
shadow detail, you may want to include more shadow readings than sky to move
the exposure down 1/3 or 1/2 of a stop (or more).

A piu tardi  (that's the most Italian I know:~)

Jim
Frank Pittel - 17 Jan 2005 15:06 GMT
After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting the 558.
Functionally they're very similar but having gotten into night photography (on hold
until spring!!) the lack of low light sensitivity in the 508 was giving me no end
of grief.

: Impressions of someone has bought this light meter?
: I bought a new one just today. Seems so ok, and reading on somewher someone
: says that is like "The swiss army knife" of meters but I'm not McGiver!!
: i will use it because has every metering that I need, like incident plus a 1?
: spot. Is a reliable meter, some impressions?

: Thanks in advance!!
: Stefano

: PS: but I still save my my Gossen LunaPro...

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Matt Clara - 17 Jan 2005 16:46 GMT
> After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting the
> 558.
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> no end
> of grief.

So, how's the -19 EV on the 558 treating you?

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Robert M - 18 Jan 2005 03:15 GMT
> > After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting the
> > 558.
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>
> So, how's the -19 EV on the 558 treating you?

hmmm, it says on their site that minimum incident sensitivity
is  -2 EV, but latter on it says that EV range is from -9.9 to
46.6 ??

L-508 has -3 EV minimal sensitivity, i have it...

anything firsthand on that 558 data ...?
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Frank Pittel - 20 Jan 2005 06:43 GMT
: > After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting the
: > 558.
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: > no end
: > of grief.

: So, how's the -19 EV on the 558 treating you?

I'm loving it!! :-) As soon as it gets a little warmer out I'm going to take
it with me for some night photography!!

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Alparslan - 18 Jan 2005 12:37 GMT
> After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting the 558.
> Functionally they're very similar but having gotten into night photography (on hold
> until spring!!) the lack of low light sensitivity in the 508 was giving me no end
> of grief.

What is the difference with the 600 series. I have reviewed their web site
but nothing I could spot.
Al.
Jim Phelps - 18 Jan 2005 15:55 GMT
>> After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting
>> the
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> but nothing I could spot.
> Al.

About the only real difference is the 608 has a zoom optic.  I believe it
goes from 1 degree to 4.
Stefano Bramato - 18 Jan 2005 23:09 GMT
> About the only real difference is the 608 has a zoom optic.  I believe it
> goes from 1 degree to 4.

it not be enough to justify more expensive meter IMO.

ciao
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Frank Pittel - 20 Jan 2005 06:39 GMT
: >> After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting
: >> the
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: > but nothing I could spot.
: > Al.

: About the only real difference is the 608 has a zoom optic.  I believe it
: goes from 1 degree to 4.

It also has the same low light sensitivity issues that the 508 has.

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????Lonely Boy???? - 19 Jan 2005 13:42 GMT
Me too.  I changed my 508 to 558 because of better sensitivity in low light
reflective measuring.

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> After using the 508 for a number of years I talked myself into getting the 558.
> Functionally they're very similar but having gotten into night photography (on hold
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>
> : PS: but I still save my my Gossen LunaPro...
Alparslan - 23 Feb 2005 21:27 GMT
I was looking at the specifications of Sekonic 558 on the official Sekonic
site (http://www.sekonic.com/Products/L-558R.html) and noticed a technical
detail which goes like this

"Reflected: 1? Spot lens, metering distance 3.3ft ~ (1m~)"

does this mean S-558 can not meter light reflected off objects away from the
unit more than 3.3ft ~ (1m~) ?

Al.
Gregory Blank - 23 Feb 2005 22:41 GMT
> I was looking at the specifications of Sekonic 558 on the official Sekonic
> site (http://www.sekonic.com/Products/L-558R.html) and noticed a technical
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>
> Al.

Not at all ;  I would guess it means you have to be 3.3 feet away or more
to get accurate spot meter readings.

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