After badgering you folks on this issue for a few months now, and thinking
about it myself for a few years, I've made a purchase. My criteria changed
over time, but I really wanted a built-in meter, and the ability to shoot
handheld at speeds of 1/15 and higher. Good glass is a must, but it doesn't
have to be the absolute best. Originally I leaned heavily towards the
Mamiya 7II and 65mm lens. Then I decided I didn't want to spend that much
on a camera I might not like, and started leaning towards the Fuji fixed
lens rangefinders. Unfortunately, those have no onboard metering, so they
weren't exactly what I wanted, plus, they still run right around $1300;
again, a little more than I want to spend on a camera I might not like (all
my experiences with "poor man leica's" aka 1970's fixed lens rangefinders,
have been dismal). During the last round of discussion, however, Tony Clark
mentioned the Mamiya 6. I knew it was out there, but primarily ignored it
because of its square format. Tony's comments made me look past that, and
it turns out the Mamiya 6 has a strong fan base, built primarily on the
camera's sturdiness, ease of use, and the quality of the lenses. I was able
to procure one with 75mm lens for right around $1000 last night. Let you
know how it goes... ;-)

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Clyde - 29 Nov 2004 23:27 GMT
You'll be pleased. In many ways, the Mamiya 6 is superior to the Mamiya
7. Time to start shopping for the 50mm though. Hold off on the 150 for a
while to see if you need it.
Jeffery Harrison - 30 Nov 2004 03:13 GMT
I don't know that I agree with you. I have both the Mamiya 6MF (for what
it's worth the 645 adapter is pretty lame on this camera) and the Mamiya 7II
and I like the 7II better (granted you said the 7 but...). Part of it's the
square format of the 6MF (I bought it to see how I felt about shooting
square format and found I really, really don't like it) but I also prefer
the display of the 7II better. There is one thing that I do like better
about the 6 though and that is the fact that you can collapse the camera to
make it more compact and that the lenses are slightly smaller but those
aren't enough to make me want to get another 6 thought another 7 would be
nice.
Jeffery S. Harrison
> You'll be pleased. In many ways, the Mamiya 6 is superior to the Mamiya
> 7. Time to start shopping for the 50mm though. Hold off on the 150 for a
> while to see if you need it.
Bandicoot - 30 Nov 2004 02:58 GMT
> I don't know that I agree with you. I have both the Mamiya 6MF (for what
> it's worth the 645 adapter is pretty lame on this camera) and the Mamiya 7II
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> aren't enough to make me want to get another 6 thought another 7 would be
> nice.
Either you like square or you don't. I do, but then I shoot a lot of very
'static' subjects. My more dynamic compositions tend to be shot with
rectangular frames - but then my square system is not one I hand-hold much,
so that works out fine for me.
On the original subject, I've just recently bought a Fuji GS645S, which I'm
enjoying playing with. I've always had a 'pocket' camera for times when I
don't have anything bigger with me, and thought it would be nice to have
something with bigger negatives that would still do as a 'semi-pocket'
camera. It'll be nice to have MF slides of some of the people/city subjects
I currently shoot with 35mm rangefinders too.
Peter
Matt Clara - 30 Nov 2004 03:53 GMT
>I don't know that I agree with you. I have both the Mamiya 6MF (for what
> it's worth the 645 adapter is pretty lame on this camera) and the Mamiya
> 7II
> and I like the 7II better (granted you said the 7 but...).
I see the 6 bodies sell for more than the 7's. The 7II's are in a league of
their own...

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