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Fujifilm GA 645 zi

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Patrick L. - 23 Sep 2004 05:31 GMT
I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate flash
metering system, and medium telephoto lens, either rangefinder or SLR. The
intended use is outdoor weddings, particularly in bright sun,

How the Fuji 645 zi  for outdoor fill flash on bright sunny days (with an
external flash)?      What flash unit would be good for it?

Patrick
LR Kalajainen - 23 Sep 2004 21:44 GMT
> I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate flash
> metering system, and medium telephoto lens, either rangefinder or SLR. The
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> Patrick

The 645 zi has a built in pop-up flash that is fine for fill inside of
10-12 feet.  For external flash, I have used Rollei potato-masher, the
Rollei 134 shoe-mount and the Vivitar 185 with good results.
Patrick L. - 24 Sep 2004 03:40 GMT
> > I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate flash
> > metering system, and medium telephoto lens, either rangefinder or SLR. The
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> 10-12 feet.  For external flash, I have used Rollei potato-masher, the
> Rollei 134 shoe-mount and the Vivitar 185 with good results.

Will the pop up flash handle a large family, wide angle shot?    I didn't
think so.   I will need the masher, or something similar.

Patrick
LR Kalajainen - 24 Sep 2004 16:56 GMT
>>>I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate
>
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> Patrick

You're right, the pop-up probably won't handle a very wide angle,
although it will cover the angle that the lens covers.  But if the group
is large, you may have to be furher back than what the flash's effective
range is.  I should think a Vivitar 283 or 285 (with the wide-angle
setting) would do well.
Patrick L. - 25 Sep 2004 06:24 GMT
> >>>I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate
> >
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> range is.  I should think a Vivitar 283 or 285 (with the wide-angle
> setting) would do well.

Well,  I've got a 283,   and I will be experimenting.   I just bought a Fuji
GA 645 Zi,  today.   Nice camera,  I think I'm going to like it.    It's a
simple camera, and I like that about it.

Patrick
LR Kalajainen - 26 Sep 2004 12:27 GMT
>>>>>I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate
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> Patrick

I think the Fuji rangerfinders in all their manifestations (645 manual
and auto, 6X7, 6X9) are some of the most under-rated and
under-appreciated cameras on the market.  My 15 year-old GS645S (the
fixed-lens manual predecessor of the 645Zi) traveled all over Europe and
beyond with me for ten years while I was based in Paris, despite my
ripping off the shutter speed ring in my bicycle spokes (which I then
was able to repair myself, despite not being familiar with the innards
of the mechanism), and has given me most of my best shots during those
years.  Light, rugged, simple, with a killer lens--what more could a
Leica-trained, medium format junkie want.  It's still cranking along
without having seen the inside of a shop and still producing great negs.
 As is my five year-old GA645Zi and my G670III.  The Mamiya 6 and 7
were sexier, but a whole lot more expensive, and not one whit better in
lens quality or reliability.  I'd love to see Fuji bring back the GS645
manual models, but I'm sure the market would never support it now that
everybody's moving to digital.
Gordon Moat - 24 Sep 2004 20:53 GMT
> > > I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate
> flash
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> Will the pop up flash handle a large family, wide angle shot?    I didn't
> think so.   I will need the masher, or something similar.

Why not use slave strobes as extra lights? Your on camera flash should be
able to trigger those, even with a distance between the camera and the
lights.

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
A G Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com> Updated!
Brian - 25 Sep 2004 19:07 GMT
> I need autofocus, a high enough flash sync for fill flash, an accurate flash
> metering system, and medium telephoto lens, either rangefinder or SLR. The
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>
> Patrick

The Fujifilm Strobe GA is especially made for the Fuji 645 cameras, as
it has  vertical light dispersion to match the orientation of the
cameras. They are not real easy to find, but often appear on eBay.
Paddleman - 26 Sep 2004 15:11 GMT
The only thing I don't like about my zi is that: I find on the M setting it is
cumbersome to hold the body and adjust the aperture setting using the dial and
the button.

Gary
LR Kalajainen - 26 Sep 2004 18:11 GMT
> The only thing I don't like about my zi is that: I find on the M setting it is
> cumbersome to hold the body and adjust the aperture setting using the dial and
> the button.
>
> Gary
Yep,  my one complaint, too.
Larry
JCPERE - 27 Sep 2004 23:45 GMT
> paddleman@aol.comnospam  (Paddleman)

>The only thing I don't like about my zi is that: I find on the M setting it
>is
>cumbersome to hold the body and adjust the aperture setting using the dial
>and
>the button.

The dial only is used for the aperture.  For shutter speed you need to push the
button when turning the dial.
Chuck
Paddleman - 29 Sep 2004 04:15 GMT
yea,  Chuck this is right, so now tell use how  convenient you feel this is.
Gary
JCPERE - 29 Sep 2004 12:13 GMT
>paddleman@aol.comnospam  (Paddleman)

>yea,  Chuck this is right, so now tell use how  convenient you feel this is.
>Gary

Well I can't adjust the shutter speed using one hand yet.  I usually use manual
on a tripod but do want to set the speed as I fix fstop for depth of field.
The whole manual operation is not very easy.  It would be nice to find a camera
with a real rangefinder and better manual operation that still had that great
zoom lens and small size.  But I did step into this camera as my easy use
system from using old Agfa folders.  So I feel it's not too hard to use.  But
I'm still looking at the instruction book to figure out how all those buttons
are used.  I have to say that image quality is quite a leap over the old
folders (Solinar lens) and seems as good as my 6x9 Century Graphic with newer
Apo-Sironar.
Chuck
 
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