European 9x12 same as 4x5?

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jjs - 21 Jul 2004 14:11 GMT

I see some LF cameras for sale in Europe specified as "9x12". I know that
Efke film considers "9x12" a "European" size and is classified separately
from 4x5.

Are they actually different dimension films, or is this just a cross-over
description of the very same film size?

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Nick Zentena - 21 Jul 2004 14:36 GMT

> I see some LF cameras for sale in Europe specified as "9x12". I know that
> Efke film considers "9x12" a "European" size and is classified separately
> from 4x5.
>
> Are they actually different dimension films, or is this just a cross-over
> description of the very same film size?

If they are modern cameras then they should be able to handle 4x5 holders.
My understanding is some time in the past the outside dimension of the
holders was standardized between 4x5/9x12 and I think between 5x7 and the
metric version. If it's an older camera it'll need 9x12 holders and 9x12
film. The film is different in size.

http://www.geocities.com/thombell/filmsheet.html

Nick

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Matt - 21 Jul 2004 14:59 GMT

> I see some LF cameras for sale in Europe specified as "9x12". I know that
> Efke film considers "9x12" a "European" size and is classified separately
> from 4x5.

They are different film size, 9x12 require a dedicated 9x12 chassis. But I
think every view camera (the most modern surely) mentioned as 9x12 will
accept 10x12 (4x5) too.

The 9x12 format seems going to disappear, but some like Efke yet produce
sheet film in this size.

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jjs - 21 Jul 2004 15:13 GMT

Thank you, Nick and Matt. The camera I'm looking at is a late-model Linhof
RF, so I should be okay with standard 4x5 holders and film with the "9x12"
Linhof.

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