Hello -
My Minolta AUtometer IV has died.
I am considering what to get:
Any comments on the Sekonic 558, Minolta Flashmeter VI???
Thanks - Bruce
John - 06 Jul 2004 05:57 GMT
>Hello -
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>Thanks - Bruce
I like my Gossen Luna Star F2. Durable and consistent.
Regards,
John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com
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Jos. Burke - 06 Jul 2004 14:52 GMT
Though there will be many more "time seasoned" users here I will comment on
the Sekonic--I have the L -508 and really like it for an all around-"do it
all" type meter as it is a terrific meter. For straight Zone System use I
still favor my Pentax Digital Spot --so I have both.
J Burke
Just a narrow minded limited experience users' 2 cents.
> Hello -
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Ted Harris - 06 Jul 2004 21:19 GMT
Like others, my pentax digital Spot is the one meter that I always carry and
use more frequently outdoors than any other for landscape work. OTOH I also
have a Sekonic 708 and a Gossen Luna Pro SBC, the 708 fir the studio as a flash
meter and the otehr as a general purpose backup meter.
If you are going to have just one meter go with the Pentax and train your eye
to do some judging
Ted Harris
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Largformat - 06 Jul 2004 23:21 GMT
There is an article in the Free Articles section of our web site on
Zoning with the Multi-Tasking Meter
www.viewcamera.com
that might be helpful.
steve simmons
jjs - 07 Jul 2004 02:11 GMT
> There is an article in the Free Articles section of our web site on
>
> Zoning with the Multi-Tasking Meter
Permit me to help. The URL is http://www.viewcamera.com/pdf/zoning.pdf, and
it's more of an INFOMERCIAL than anything else.
CamArtsMag - 07 Jul 2004 02:48 GMT
Permit me to help. The URL is http://www.viewcamera.com/pdf/zoning.pdf, and
it's more of an INFOMERCIAL than anything
else.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good John. Now you've told him how to miss several other free articles that
might be of help to him. By going to the home page he could see the whole set
of free articles.
As for the infomercial part this is the first article to my knowledge that
shows this technique to many people who aready have the meter. Many people from
my workshops would bring the meter w/o an instruction book and want help so I
did this article.
steve simmons
www.viewcamera.com
Wise a.s Poaster - 07 Jul 2004 03:08 GMT
> Good John. Now you've told him how to miss several other free articles that
> might be of help to him.
Ahh your way,.......way too easy. Now predictably,.....
John's going to launch into some tirade,......
which is exactly what he's been hoping for a chance to do. :-)
Wise a.s Poaster - 07 Jul 2004 02:55 GMT
> Permit me to help.
> it's more of an INFOMERCIAL than anything else.
Boy,..... are you going to miss him when he's gone. :-D
Largformat - 07 Jul 2004 03:00 GMT
Boy,..... are you going to miss him when he's gone. :-D
Actually I am not leaving. I will be happy to direct people to the discussion
group at www.viewcamera.com where posts like John's will never appear. This
type of post is not helpful or constructive. If John can come on and be helpful
to people we will be happy to post his comments.
steve simmons
Wise a.s Poaster - 07 Jul 2004 03:19 GMT
> Boy,..... are you going to miss him when he's gone. :-D
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> to people we will be happy to post his comments.
> steve simmons
Well that's good,....I think,.....although I sense the flames growing some
what higher :-)
And now I leave you to do some constructive work of my own
"like sleep".
jjs - 07 Jul 2004 13:13 GMT
> > Permit me to help.
> > it's more of an INFOMERCIAL than anything else.
>
> Boy,..... are you going to miss him when he's gone. :-D
I'm already beginning to miss him. Fortunately, I know the magic words that
bring him back.
evan clarke - 07 Jul 2004 16:39 GMT
jjs, Do you have anything to say about meters?..Evan Clarke
> > There is an article in the Free Articles section of our web site on
> >
> > Zoning with the Multi-Tasking Meter
>
> Permit me to help. The URL is http://www.viewcamera.com/pdf/zoning.pdf, and
> it's more of an INFOMERCIAL than anything else.
jjs - 07 Jul 2004 17:33 GMT
> jjs, Do you have anything to say about meters?..Evan Clarke
Not much. I use contrast filters so often that my metrics are probably
alien. I will say that I'm about to throw my Minolta IVf away and will
probably look at a Gossen Starlite next. My life's wish is to have a
new-made, reliable Weston meter, but they are priced on the moon and not
reliable enough considering the price. (I have perhaps half a dozen working
Weston classics but my confidence in them diminishes every year.)
Not much help, eh?
Gregory W Blank - 07 Jul 2004 23:11 GMT
> > jjs, Do you have anything to say about meters?..Evan Clarke
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> Not much help, eh?
Yeah I know what you mean, I want a colormeter and a complete
set of CC filters,......the meter runs about $800-1000.

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Frank Pittel - 07 Jul 2004 17:24 GMT
Unfortunatly I can't comment on either of the meters that you're
asking about from real world experience. I do have the Sekonic 508
and am very happy with it. I have looked into replacing it with the 558.
Last winter I "borrowed" a 558 from a local camera store for an afternoon
and like it a lot. It has better low light sensativity then the 508. The
only downside (if you can call it a downside) is that the spotmeter is fixed
at one degree. That isn't a downside to anyone using the zone system. :-)
The build quality of my 508 is unbelievable. I've bounced my 508 off of concrete
and asphalt more times then I'd like to admit to and it still gives accurate readings!!
: Hello -
: My Minolta AUtometer IV has died.
: I am considering what to get:
: Any comments on the Sekonic 558, Minolta Flashmeter VI???
: Thanks - Bruce

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No One - 07 Jul 2004 18:04 GMT
> Unfortunatly I can't comment on either of the meters that you're
> asking about from real world experience. I do have the Sekonic 508
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> : Thanks - Bruce
Thanks guys - I think I will get the Sekonic 558. Should meet my needs
nicely - hopefully it will take a few bounces. They should make one that you
can drop....
Jean-David Beyer - 07 Jul 2004 22:09 GMT
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Selecting meters seems to have become a religious matter.
I happen to like the Zone VI modified Pentax Digital spot meter.
But if you do not think the color filtering and field stops that reduce
flare about one stop are worth it, the regular Pentax Digital is cheaper.
I have not figured out the benefit to the additional complexity of other
meters.

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Helge Nareid - 18 Jul 2004 22:24 GMT
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>Selecting meters seems to have become a religious matter.
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>I have not figured out the benefit to the additional complexity of other
>meters.
I have not had the opportunity to investigate spectral response, but I
once had the opportunity to compare the flare control of three spot
meters, the (unmodified) Pentax Digital, the Minolta and the Sekonic
(I can't remember the model designations for the Minolta and the
Sekonic, but they are not likely to be optically different from the
current offerings). The unmodified Pentax meter was seriously
deficient in flare control compared to the two others. The Minolta and
Sekonic meters were at least two stops better in flare control when
tested with a high intensity source two degrees outside the one degree
measurement area (spot lamp against a black-painted ceiling). I ended
up buying the Sekonic meter because I preferred the user interface to
the Minolta. I have not had the opportunity to test the modified
Pentax meter.

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