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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Large Format / February 2007Fair value for Beseler 4x5 enlarger
Hello: What would a fair value be for a Beseler 4x5 enlarger (model 45M?)? It's an older model (black crinkle paint). Complete, in pretty good shape. No damage. Excellent bellows - no holes or tears. Wooden base is in good condition with just a few light chemical stains. Enlarger has the motor drive. With neg carriers for 35mm, 6x6, 6x9, and glass 4x5. Built in red filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger. Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance. > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance. Between two thirds & one half the original selling price if in good to excellent condition.  SignatureBaltimore & DC Large Format User Website http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank <<<For best results expand this window at least 6" at 1152 x 768 resolution >> Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Between two thirds & one half the original selling price if in good > to excellent condition. How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in today's digital world it's worth less then that. Nick > How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in > today's digital world it's worth less then that. > Nick Junk is junk. If the enlarger cost 2,000 ....10 years ago and looks brand new,......well it would be fair to get 1,000 don't ya think. Just because its fair does not mean they will get the asking price. Meerly that ista fair asking price reflective if the original price. Now if the item is a 5 on a scale of 10 then maybe a 1/4 of the price would be fair. Digital or not someone who appreciates a good working order item will still appreciate getting a fair deal. Try etting that from a photo dealer and you my as well give it to them. What it boils down to is look at the price that was paid and realistically assess the condition, and that will give you at least a good place to start. SignatureBaltimore & DC Large Format User Website http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank <<<For best results expand this window at least 6" at 1152 x 768 resolution >> How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in >> today's digital world it's worth less then that. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > give it to them. What it boils down to is look at the price that was paid and realistically > assess the condition, and that will give you at least a good place to start. My Beseler 4x5 came from a dealer. One of the best in town. It's not mint but good enough it came with a 6 month warranty. No lenses but almost every carrier made and a bunch of lensboards. 2 years ago it set me back something around $250 US. When I wanted a colour head I instead bought an almost NIB Durst 4x5 for $300. 4x5 enlargers just aren't selling for big money today. Nick > My Beseler 4x5 came from a dealer. One of the best in town. It's not mint > but good enough it came with a 6 month warranty. No lenses but almost every [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > money today. > Nick Yes I understand what you are saying. My point was/is what is fair is not what you ultimately may get for the item. SignatureBaltimore & DC Large Format User Website http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank <<<For best results expand this window at least 6" at 1152 x 768 resolution > >> How high would that have been? I'm going out on a limb to say that in > >> today's digital world it's worth less then that. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Nick It's the shipping that gets ya! SignatureRegards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com I'd say something around $200 would be fair. A Beseler MXII enlarger with two El Nikkor lenses and negative carriers pretty much the same as those included here recently sold on e bay for $255. I believe the MXII is a newer enlarger than the M. A Beseler MCRX enlarger (also newer than the M I believe) with a $200 opening price attracted no bids at all but I don't think it had as many accessories as yours. I'm not sure there's much of a market for an enlarger as old as the M with old, less than top-of-the line lenses like the Componons so $200 might be on the high side of fair. > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Just need a ballpark idea. Thanks in advance. > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > filter. Aristo cold light head. Older Schneider 105mm and 135mm Componon > lenses (not S models). Lenses probably about same age as enlarger. I'd separate it, sell the lenses, the carriers and then the enlarger. There is more likely to be a market for the carriers to different people etc. Maybe keep one of the carriers to sell with the enlarger, like the 6X9 one? SignatureStacey >> Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >is more likely to be a market for the carriers to different people etc. >Maybe keep one of the carriers to sell with the enlarger, like the 6X9 one? Good point. The LeafScan 45 takes Beseler film holders. <G>. rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com >>>Hello: >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Good point. The LeafScan 45 takes Beseler > film holders. <G>. If anyone is desperately in need, I've got sitting around doing very little two Leafscans (one without lens, one with a broken power supply) which can be turned by a competent D-I-Y repairperson into one Leafscan 45. I also have a complete one which I use, these are spares, but they are blocking up to the storeroom. One of the 'spares' belongs to another photographer, Steve Climpson, who sent it me on the basis that if I had time to assemble a finished Leafscan from his and mine, and sell it, we would split the proceeds. I don't have time, Steve probably doesn't care now, and any offers for the mass of parts and casings (mostly assembled, but not entirely :-) from the UK would probably be accepted. I even have a spare NuBus GBIP board (very useful, that...) I have a large number of carriers including a rotating rollfilm carrier, 35mm slides, various different rollfilm aperture fixed carriers and the tensioning 5 x 4, and several duplicates among them. I definitely need to keep the tensioning one - it cost me a fortune at the time - and the 35mm mounted slide but I may have some others which are surplus to any forseeable need unless they go with the above spares. The Leafscan is now used about once every three months because every photographer/writer I deal with now submits on CD. David Icon Publications Ltd Kelso, Scotland David Kilpatrick Wrote: > If anyone is desperately in need, I've got sitting around doing very > little two Leafscans (one without lens, one with a broken powe [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Icon Publications Ltd > Kelso, Scotland It's a long shot, but if you're still there, David, and you haven' sold them already, I'll gladly take those rotating neg holders off you hands -- Aizan > I'd separate it, sell the lenses, the carriers and then the enlarger. There > is more likely to be a market for the carriers to different people etc. > Maybe keep one of the carriers to sell with the enlarger, like the 6X9 one? While separating items is often a good idea when there's a strong market for each item individually, it's probably not a good idea in this case except maybe for the one glass carrier. If you look at the completed sales section of e bay you'll see that negative carriers alone seldom attract any bids. Most of the time the only ones that sell at all are the glass variety - since they cost $100 or so new and are useful to people still doing darkroom work, there seems to be a market for them at about $20. But plain negative carriers by themselves attract almost no interest. Separating the lenses from the enlarger might be a good idea if they were something special or unusual but plain vanilla enlarging lenses as old and relatively mediocre as these are unlikely IMHO to attract much interest by themselves. > > Hello: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > is more likely to be a market for the carriers to different people etc. > Maybe keep one of the carriers to sell with the enlarger, like the 6X9 one? |
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