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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Large Format / April 2004What is available for WA for 8x10
In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format camera. I am a WA user (24mm or less) in the 35 mm world. I am now foraging into the 8x10 realm. Any suggestions for a lens with lots of coverage? >In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, >I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format >camera. I am a WA user (24mm or less) in the 35 mm world. I am >now foraging into the 8x10 realm. Any suggestions for a lens >with lots of coverage? Hmmm. I understand there are 110 mm lenses available that will cover 8x10" but I wouldn't have a clue who makes them or what they might cost. I just picked up a used Symmar 240/5.6 that has 8x10" coverage, but I guess that's not very wide for 8x10". (It's in a Copal 3 and is quite huge compared to my other two LF lenses.) rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com >what is available for WA for a 8x10 format 159mm WA Wollensak (?) (old, flare?) 165mm Angulon (stop it down!) 165mm Super Angulon (big, heavy, expensive) 210mm G-Claron (a small wonder, shoot at f32 or smaller) 210mm Angulon (usually in old shutter, Copal 3 remounts expensive) 210mm Super Angulon (monstruous, forget it) 8 1/4" Dagor (watch out for focus shift, many variations in quality) 210m Fujinon-W (a beauty) 240mm Fujinon-A (a miniature lens, will just cover) 240mm G-Claron (small, stop it down!) 240mm Symmar, Symmar-S, Apo-Symmar, Sironar, Sironar-N, Apo-Sironar, Nikkor-W (big, heavy, just cover) 250mm Wide Field Ektar (sharp, but in unreliable shutter) 250mm f6.7 Fujinon-W (superb, extensive coverage, make sure it's f6.7!) There are some available below 165mm, they'll cost you an arm and a leg Just a short list with my biased opinions! Bob G >>what is available for WA for a 8x10 format > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Bob G Nice list, Bob. I'll add the Kowa-graphic 210 and 240 f9's. They were also sold as Computar and Kyvvyx. *Some* of these will screw directly into Copal shutters. -Peter > Nice list, Bob. I'll add the Kowa-graphic 210 and 240 f9's. They were > also sold as Computar and Kyvvyx. *Some* of these will screw directly > into Copal shutters. Beat me to it - superb lens - becomes a 6.8 in shutter (the 210 does anyway) also convertable to 370mm where it is at least half decent. On the 159mm Wollensak - the later coated "pink" dot ones are quite nice - very little flare, fairly cotnrasty and sharp enough for the price.... And there are the big and/or expensive 150mm Nikkor Wide, 12mm Nikkor Wide (I think) Grnadagon 20omm and 155mm and the Suoper Symmar XL 110mm, 150mm 210mm The 210 Fuji - you have to find exactly the right model - I have one and keep it for 4x5 - much prefer the Kowa Oh - and also the 180mm f9 Carl Zeiss Jenna Dagor - extremely nice lens If you don't need movements, the Zeiss 121mm Super Angulon. Zeiss ? Super Angulon ? IIRC make that Schneider ... 121mm Super Angulon. > If you don't need movements, the Zeiss 121mm Super Angulon. > Zeiss ? > Super Angulon ? > > IIRC make that Schneider ... 121mm Super Angulon. Gawd I hate it when I screw up like that! I own the darned lens and messed up! Duh. I'm "visual". Yeah, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. :) (Thanks for the correction.) "jjs" posted: "... I'm "visual". Yeah, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. :) ..." [HeHeHeHeHe ...] > >what is available for WA for a 8x10 format > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Bob G ...and in addition: 110mm Symmar XL (opinions vary about coverage, but small, expensive and high quality image. 150mm Symmar XL ample coverage, expensive, very good. 155mm Grandagon ample coverage, very big, heavy fairly expensive, good. 120mm Nikon SW minimal coverage, not cheap, but sometimes reasonable used, excellent quality image. 150mm Nikon SW ample coverage, expensive, excellent image. > ...and in addition: > 110mm Symmar XL (opinions vary about coverage, but small, expensive and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > excellent quality image. > 150mm Nikon SW ample coverage, expensive, excellent image. The 155 Grandagon is nice for 8x10 even without a center filter, in my limited experience. Depending on subject matter, of course. >>what is available for WA for a 8x10 format > 159mm WA Wollensak (?) (old, flare?) > 165mm Angulon (stop it down!) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > 250mm Wide Field Ektar (sharp, but in unreliable shutter) > 250mm f6.7 Fujinon-W (superb, extensive coverage, make sure it's f6.7!) > There are some available below 165mm, they'll cost you an arm and a leg > Just a short list with my biased opinions! > Bob G WOW. That is some list. Looks like I have some more research to do. Sounds like the great limiting factors for me will be $$$ followed by coverage. Based on what I have been doing, I need lots of coverage for looking around corners :). Guess I need to play more as I have been exceeding the coverage of the 12" lens I have on hand. And Bob, bias greatfully accepted and noted :) > In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, > I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format > camera. I am a WA user (24mm or less) in the 35 mm world. I am > now foraging into the 8x10 realm. Any suggestions for a lens > with lots of coverage? A simple base approach, simplisticly, normal lens on a 35mm camera = 50mm, for an 8x10 it's 300mm. 1/2 of 50mm = 25mm, 24mm actual for your wide angle, 1/2 of 300mm = a 150mm on 8x10. and simply so forth. Alex > > In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, > > I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Alex depending on how you measure/compare it (image diagonal/different proportions and so on) 24mm in 35mm equates to around 173mm to 194mm in 8x10. (useful excel tool here http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/lenses3.html - you can download it ) There is also the feeling that many have (purely illusiory) that they don't need to use a lens as wide with 8x10 as they do with smaller fomats. 24mm is a much used lens by me in 35mm. In 8x10 my 210mm or 250mm often seem plenty wide enough. my 159mm/165mm lenses seem REALLY wide..... So folks, as long as we are doing this, what is the widest lens ever made that will cover an 8X10 negative? Don't forget the Goerz Hypergon's (sp?) with the little windmill thingy. Any fisheye's out there? And oh, there is tin foil with a hole punched in it. Kirk > > > In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, > > > I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > 24mm is a much used lens by me in 35mm. In 8x10 my 210mm or 250mm often seem > plenty wide enough. my 159mm/165mm lenses seem REALLY wide..... More: Widest lens ever made to cover 8X10. My entry: Goerz Hypergon No. Focal MM Format inches 1914 Price 0 60 5x7 $43.50 000a 75 8 x 10 $49.00 0 90 10 x 12 $52.50 0 120 12 x 16 $62.00 1 150 16 x 20 $72.50 2a 200 24 x 28 $91.00 000a w/o Star 75 5 x 7 $44.00 00 w/o Star 90 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 $47.50 0 w/o Star 120 8 x 10 $54.50 A 75 mm 000a Goerz Hypergon with Star fan. Don't you wish your Great Grandfather had bought a dozen and put them in a lock box for you. How about that 2a? They boasted an 1:31 f-stop. Kirk > > > In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, > > > I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > 24mm is a much used lens by me in 35mm. In 8x10 my 210mm or 250mm often seem > plenty wide enough. my 159mm/165mm lenses seem REALLY wide..... > More: Widest lens ever made to cover 8X10. My entry: > Goerz [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Kirk If you want a new one, Ron Wisner is making them. The 140o Wisner Hypergon, 84mm, f:22-45 Lens in Shutter $2495.00 Center Filter $382.00 http://www.wisner.com/Page20.html  Signature.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 08:30:00 up 5 days, 9:12, 6 users, load average: 4.74, 4.32, 4.16 > In my infinite quest for infinite ways to spend money on a hobby, > I now need to know what is available for WA for a 8x10 format > camera. I am a WA user (24mm or less) in the 35 mm world. I am > now foraging into the 8x10 realm. Any suggestions for a lens > with lots of coverage? 88 Super Aviogon covers 305 mm. Not inexpensive or easy to find. |
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