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mounting G Claron 240

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Wai-Ming Ho - 28 Sep 2005 13:30 GMT
Hi,

I just got my hands on a barrel G-Claron 240. I have been reading some
archives and most mention mounting it in a Copal #1 with no spacing
adjustments required. Can someone confirm the same results for Compur 1
shutters ?

The other question concerns the Copal #1 iris scale on a Nikkor M 300/9.
 Would this scale apply to the G-Claron's if the Claron's cells are
mounted here (I have doubts as both lenses are not of the same
design/focal length) ?

TIA,
waiming
Nick Zentena - 28 Sep 2005 13:49 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I just got my hands on a barrel G-Claron 240. I have been reading some
> archives and most mention mounting it in a Copal #1 with no spacing
> adjustments required. Can someone confirm the same results for Compur 1
> shutters ?

 Mine is in a Compur. Just measure first in the barrel then after mounting.
The two should match.

> The other question concerns the Copal #1 iris scale on a Nikkor M 300/9.
>  Would this scale apply to the G-Claron's if the Claron's cells are
> mounted here (I have doubts as both lenses are not of the same
> design/focal length) ?

 You'll have to adjust. Either by measuring or by doing some math.
Measuring is more accurate. Math good enough for B&W negative film.
Considering the shutter speeds aren't 100% accurate either it's likely good
enough for everything.

Nick

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Wai-Ming Ho - 28 Sep 2005 16:12 GMT
>>Hi,
>>
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>   Mine is in a Compur. Just measure first in the barrel then after mounting.
> The two should match.

By measuring, I take it that you mean the air space separation between
the two cells when mounted ?

>>The other question concerns the Copal #1 iris scale on a Nikkor M 300/9.
>> Would this scale apply to the G-Claron's if the Claron's cells are
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>
> Nick

Thanks.
waiming
Jean-David Beyer - 28 Sep 2005 16:27 GMT
>>> Hi,
>>>
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> By measuring, I take it that you mean the air space separation between
> the two cells when mounted ?

Too hard. Just measure the distance between the front edge (rim) of the
front cell) to the rear edge of the rear cell. That is the main spacing to
worry about. Purists would want the shutter and diaphragm assembly to be at
the right place between the inner elements, but I cannot think of an easy
way to manage that. Probably Richard knows.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 28 Sep 2005 19:03 GMT
> By measuring, I take it that you mean the air space separation between
> the two cells when mounted ?

You only need to keep the air space separation the same,
you don't have to know what it actually is.

In the original barrel mount measure the distance from the
front lens flange (where the filters screw in) to the
back lens flange using a micrometer or vernier caliper.

After mounting in the shutter verify that the flange-flange distance
is the same.  If it is less then it is possible to carefully cut spacer
shims out of cloth/plastic/cardboard and thus increase the spacing.
If the spacing is greater when mounted in the shutter then you will
need the services of a machine shop to cut down the shutter or the
lens cell(s).  In the USA that would be Steve Grimes, Inc. in
Rhode Island.

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Wai-Ming Ho - 29 Sep 2005 09:17 GMT
>>By measuring, I take it that you mean the air space separation between
>>the two cells when mounted ?
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> is the same.  If it is less then it is possible to carefully cut spacer
> shims out of cloth/plastic/cardboard and thus increase the spacing.

Thanks to all for the measurement tip (it got me wondering for a while).
Richard Knoppow - 30 Sep 2005 21:05 GMT
>>>Hi,
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> By measuring, I take it that you mean the air space
> separation between the two cells when mounted ?

  It may be easier to measure from rim to rim of the
barrel. Since you are not changing the position of the glass
in the barrel you can make what is the equivalent
measurement using any convenient reference point on the
mount.

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