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David Starr - 22 Aug 2004 23:26 GMT
I have a chance to get one of these 3 cameras, all in equal excellent
condition, priced identically ($895.00)  Which would you choose.....

Sinar F2
Horseman LE
Cambo Master2 PC

Thanks

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Ted Harris - 23 Aug 2004 00:15 GMT
You really haven't given us enough information.  What bellows with each camera,
which rail(s), bag bellows included, etc.  

For example I would strongly nrecommend the Horseman becaus, IMHO it is the
solidest and kost versitle of the three BUT at 895 it is an ok buy but not
great unless it includes the expanjdable rail at a minimum.
Ted Harris
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Henniker, New Hampshire
Bob G - 23 Aug 2004 00:39 GMT
>I have a chance to get one of these 3 cameras, all in equal excellent
>condition, priced identically ($895.00)  Which would you choose.....
>
>Sinar F2
>Horseman LE
>Cambo Master2 PC

All three a little overpriced for the current market.
If you're doing studio work go for the most solid and heavy, the Horseman or
Cambo.
If you're working outdoors the Sinar F2 is the ticket.

Bob G
Kirk Fry - 23 Aug 2004 06:08 GMT
David,

We need more information to answer this question.  What and where are
you going to be photographing?  The Cambo weighs 16 lb., the Sinar 8.8
and the Horseman 10.  All will take fine pictures.  Based on the
Toyota Principle and knowing and little else I would get the Sinar.
(The Toyota Principle used to be the Chevy Principle, it goes as
follows, if 40 million folks already own one, it may not be the best
but there are lots of solutions out there as to what is wrong with
it).    :-).  Hint, it is not the camera that takes the picture.  Once
you buy into a system you are pretty much stuck with it.

Kirk

> I have a chance to get one of these 3 cameras, all in equal excellent
> condition, priced identically ($895.00)  Which would you choose.....
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David Starr - 23 Aug 2004 22:44 GMT
>David,
>
>We need more information to answer this question.  What and where are
>you going to be photographing?  

I'm not envisioning any long treks into wilderness areas, but it will
be used outdoors.  Primarily, at least now, for photographing flowers,
some buildings, some landscapes.  Also, I want to try portraits with a
4X5.

>The Cambo weighs 16 lb., the Sinar 8.8
>and the Horseman 10.  All will take fine pictures.  Based on the
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>it).    :-).  Hint, it is not the camera that takes the picture.  Once
>you buy into a system you are pretty much stuck with it.

Given this, maybe the better question would have been "What system?"
Assuming they all pretty much have the accessories I may want later,
and the accessory prices are somewhat the same, would Cambo or
possibly Horseman be a good choice?  Sinar add-ons seem a bit pricey.

Thanks to all for the help.  I'm looking forward to big negatives and
a more contemplative approach to my photography.  35mm, and sometimes
MF, make it tempting to blast away & hope you get something good.



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Phil Tobias - 24 Aug 2004 03:15 GMT
>>Sinar add-ons seem a bit pricey.

They are. But given the Toyota or Chevy Principle that another mentioned, lots
of "folks already own" Sinar add-ons. So there are quite a few used goodies
available at better prices.

Good luck. ...pt

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Mark McGilvray - 26 Aug 2004 20:00 GMT
> I have a chance to get one of these 3 cameras, all in equal excellent
> condition, priced identically ($895.00)  Which would you choose.....
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> Thanks

Log onto Ebay and see which camera system has more used components listed.
Unless you want buy all new stuff, this is important. Aside from the fact
Sinar is good equipment the availability of used equipment decided me.
otzi - 27 Aug 2004 02:33 GMT
> > I have a chance to get one of these 3 cameras, all in equal excellent
> > condition, priced identically ($895.00)  Which would you choose.....
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> Unless you want buy all new stuff, this is important. Aside from the fact
> Sinar is good equipment the availability of used equipment decided me.

Sinar.  Great backwards compatibility. Even upgradeable. Huge range of
stuff. DB shutter offers cheaper used lenses which, allows one to get
started and change later if needed.  See it as a generational camera, you
got kids?
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