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steve b - 24 Jul 2005 22:07 GMT
Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. I have film kept in the fridge
since I bought it ( anywhere from last week to a couple of months ago,
various expiration dates ) and looking for advice on how you folks like to
keep your film. so, fridge or freezer? THANKS!!!!!  Steve
Doug Robbins - 25 Jul 2005 02:21 GMT
I keep mine in the freezer and have used film several years past the
expiration date with no detectable problems.

Doug

> Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. I have film kept in the fridge
> since I bought it ( anywhere from last week to a couple of months ago,
> various expiration dates ) and looking for advice on how you folks like to
> keep your film. so, fridge or freezer? THANKS!!!!!  Steve
photo35744 - 25 Jul 2005 04:24 GMT
your supposed to expose the film, not store it.

> Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. I have film kept in the fridge
> since I bought it ( anywhere from last week to a couple of months ago,
> various expiration dates ) and looking for advice on how you folks like to
> keep your film. so, fridge or freezer? THANKS!!!!!  Steve
Andrew Price - 25 Jul 2005 19:59 GMT
>your supposed to expose the film, not store it.

Oh joy!  A profoundly witty piece of advice from an anonymous top
poster.
steve b - 26 Jul 2005 02:07 GMT
Ah yes, I remember when I had my first beer.

>>your supposed to expose the film, not store it.
>
>Oh joy!  A profoundly witty piece of advice from an anonymous top
>poster.
Gregory Blank - 25 Jul 2005 05:36 GMT
> Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. I have film kept in the fridge
> since I bought it ( anywhere from last week to a couple of months ago,
> various expiration dates ) and looking for advice on how you folks like to
> keep your film. so, fridge or freezer? THANKS!!!!!  Steve

I keep immediate use film in the fridge, and stuff I want to hold for a
longer time in the freezer.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 09 Aug 2005 20:28 GMT
> Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. fridge or freezer?

Color in the freezer, B&W in the fridge.

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JD - 11 Aug 2005 02:17 GMT
>>Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. fridge or freezer?
>
> Color in the freezer, B&W in the fridge.

Why the difference?  Does B&W not tolerate the lower temperature or is
it a matter that frezzing B&W may not be as necessary as it may be with
color?

How long after you pull from either do you wait to shoot (given an
ambient room temperature of say 70 F?

JD
Ken Hart - 11 Aug 2005 03:35 GMT
> >>Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. fridge or freezer?
> >
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>
> JD

Actually, Kodak has a paper on how long to "defrost" your film or paper!
Please be sure that the product is sealed so that moisture doesn't condense
on it while thawing.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 11 Aug 2005 13:41 GMT
> Nicholas Lindan wrote see@sig.com
> > >Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. fridge or freezer?
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> it a matter that frezzing B&W may not be as necessary as it may be with
> color?

I have no idea: it seemed like a good idea at the time and it left
some room in the freezer for food.

> How long after you pull from either do you wait to shoot

~10 seconds to 2 years; the condensation is myth is just that.
Anybody got a photo they can show that was ruined by condensation?

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Ken Hart - 12 Aug 2005 03:24 GMT
> > Nicholas Lindan wrote see@sig.com
> > > >Just asking how folks prefer to keep film. fridge or freezer?
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Kodak recommends a period of thawing in the sealed package. I can't
personnally show a ruined photo since I always allow the film to thaw for an
hour or so. I do know that roll paper right out of the 'frig will not handle
well in my printer: it tends to stick on the rollers prior to the racks.
Once the paper is in the racks, it warms up pretty fast.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 12 Aug 2005 20:38 GMT
> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote in message
> > the condensation is myth is just that. Anybody got a
> > photo they can show that was ruined by condensation?
> I can't personnally show a ruined photo since I always
> allow the film to thaw for an hour or so.

Hmmm, that seems to be the common case.

Static; light through the trap; baking in the sun; too
cold, x-rays ... and just about everyone can produce a ruined
shot to prove the effect; Condensation -- ?

I can supply one data point:
o I don't wait
o I have never seen condensation in a photo

Is there anyone out there who doesn't wait and/or
does/doesn't have a ruined shot to show?

My guess as to where the recommended defrost
times come from:

 Kodak's stuck a thermocouple into the
 center of a frozen roll of film that is:
   o in the foil/container;
   o in the cardboard box;
   o on an insulating surface;
   o in still air
 and timing how long it takes the inside of the
 roll to warm to ~room temperature.

Another data point, for the cautious: I often
take a 35mm cassette, in its plastic container,
from the freezer and place it in my pocket.
Five minutes later and the cassette feels room
temperature when I remove it to re-load the camera.
I suppose one can follow Polaroid's lead: for
faster working keep the defrosting film in
your arm-pit.

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