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format - 22 Apr 2005 04:30 GMT
What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes.....I am
doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense....Very green
grass and the ocean very blue on a sunny day......I particularily like to
photograph some of the colorful old wooden boats moored to the docks in some
of the little villiages and hamlets.....I go there often visiting family and
friends....This trip i would like to concentrate on my hobby....
I use a Nikon F3...with various lenses....widest being 28 and longest
(75-150) zoom....I always use a tripod where possible....so slower film is
ok.....
Enlargments will be mostly 11x14....with a possible 16x20...occasionally....
I also have a medium format ...twin lens (fixed lens) i will be using.....
Suggestions will be appreciated......
Merv
s crinks - 22 Apr 2005 11:54 GMT
> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes.....I am
> doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense....Very green
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> Suggestions will be appreciated......
> Merv

Fuji Reala? It's very pleasing with it's colour balance in my
experience. Slightly warm.

If you want to keep the colours under control then NPS is nice. I also
think that if you want the colours to have a bit more oomph to them you
can rate NPS at 100.

Simon.
Robert Feinman - 22 Apr 2005 14:38 GMT
> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes.....I am
> doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense....Very green
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> Suggestions will be appreciated......
> Merv

I suggest Kodak or Fuji 100 speed color negative film. The various types
are not really that different. If you want your 35mm and 120 to match
choose a pro version that is available in both sizes.
A lot depends on what you are planning to do with the images. If you
are going to scan them and print digitally you can adjust color balance,
contrast and saturation at that point.
If you are going to have them printed on conventional photo paper by a
local photofinisher I suggest running a couple of test rolls with
different types of film and see which gives you the results you like
best.
To get 16x20 from 35mm is very difficult without extreme care in
focusing and eliminating camera shake.
Color negative film has great exposure latitude so you can expose for
the shadows and not get the sky and clouds blown out. Whether your
photofinisher will print them properly is another matter.

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Xavier Boyer - 24 Apr 2005 15:00 GMT
Well, if you're not only focused to negative films, try the Velvia50. It's
the best film to get vivid colors with finest details. You just have to be
aware of an accurate exposure, as with any slide films. Prefer a slight
under-exposure (0.5 IL) on the colors you want to emphasize.
Andy Davidson - 27 Apr 2005 11:38 GMT
[Xavier Boyer via PhotoKB.com wrote in rec.photo.film+labs]
> Well, if you're not only focused to negative films, try the Velvia50. It's
> the best film to get vivid colors with finest details. You just have to be
> aware of an accurate exposure, as with any slide films. Prefer a slight
> under-exposure (0.5 IL) on the colors you want to emphasize.

... but definitely test first.  Underexposing Velvia can produce
very, very vivid results that aren't to everyone's tastes.

I'm a massive colour fan, last time I shot on Velvia, it was on holiday
looking out over the Pacific, and I had a strong polariser on.  But
you can have too much of a good thing - bracket widely.

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\ - 28 Apr 2005 20:11 GMT
I'd use Velvia if I were you rather than print film. If you insist on
printfilm Reala is a good one for that type of use. Both come in 35 and 120.
You will prolly get as many different suggestions as there are people on
this list.
Smitty

> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes.....I am
> doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense....Very green
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> Suggestions will be appreciated......
> Merv
Jack Campin - bogus address - 29 Apr 2005 01:20 GMT
>> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes...
>> I am doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense...
>> Very green grass and the ocean very blue on a sunny day.
> I'd use Velvia if I were you rather than print film. If you insist on
> printfilm Reala is a good one for that type of use.

Seconded on Velvia, not Reala.  Reala is low-contrast, intended for
people pictures.  Agfa Ultra, if it's still made, is the nearest
print-film equivalent to Velvia.  Otherwise just use an ordinary
100 ASA film and downrate it a bit.

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Philip Homburg - 29 Apr 2005 11:35 GMT
>>> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes...
>>> I am doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense...
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>print-film equivalent to Velvia.  Otherwise just use an ordinary
>100 ASA film and downrate it a bit.

The advantage of a low-contrast film like Reala it that you can
use it for high contrast scenes. If there are enough highly saturated
colors then Reala will pick them up. It is dull grey (overcast) weather
that poses most problems. An advantage of Reala is the extremely fine
grain. Large prints tend to suffer from lack of sharpness before the
grain becomes annoying.

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format - 30 Apr 2005 18:46 GMT
Thanks for your help....I am going with the general consencus to use a
chrome instead of print......Velvia......that will be most of my
photograpny....however when i do a shoot of family...i think i will go with
with Porta 160 nc.....above will be with my nikon....
The 120 will be another storey........i have quite a bit of dated
(refriderated film i have bought.....Including  Porta 400 bw...and Pan f
50...for black and white......In color in the 120 format....i will go with a
few different ones.....NpZ 120 Fuiji Color Portrait film rated at
800...Ektachrome.100 Prof....I know it is quite a mish mash of different
films ...but i like to experiment trying the different stuff......The twin
lens i am taking does not have a interchangeable back....but it is small and
light.....
I have some old 6x9 equiptment including a 50mm lens....this would be great
to use....especially in landscape but it is just to big and would need me to
take a heavier tripod......but the extra backs would be nice....
I love talking about this stuff.....especially older equipment....and always
enjoy sandbagging all your posts.......
Thanks again..
Merv
>>>> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes...
>>>> I am doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense...
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> grain. Large prints tend to suffer from lack of sharpness before the
> grain becomes annoying.
Roger - 29 Apr 2005 15:34 GMT
>What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes.....I am
>doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense....Very green
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Suggestions will be appreciated......
>Merv

Caveat: I don't recommend changing film for a trip without first
testing it under the lighting conditions for the trip and in the
processing stream that you would normally use.

I've been reading the suggestions and would offer another. I'm partial
to Kodak Portra/UC film. I use both UC100 and UC400. UC400 is a bit
more saturated. For your degree of enlargement, I'd use UC100 but done
UC400 easily at 11x14.

I've been avoiding Fuji color negative film for landscapes where a
great deal of sky is evident. For me the sky looks too cyan. A
polarizer helps - reduces the contrast range and that helps the final
print, I think the blues don't hold up too well when underexposed on
the print.

Fuji Reala in 35mm is a very nice fine grain film but I don't like the
lower contrast results. It does have good green sensitivity. It's a
good family, event, people film especially if using strobe. Generally
I prefer something faster.

That said, my favorite general purpose film is Fuji Superia 400. I
have it processed by Kodak labs. The combination gives pleasantly
saturated colors with contrast and "pop". For special travel, I spring
for the Portra.

Regards,
Roger
zeno - 22 May 2005 23:09 GMT
> What color print film is suggested for landscapes and seascapes.....I am
> doing my regular trek to Nova Scotia.. Colors can be intense....Very green
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Suggestions will be appreciated......
> Merv

Fuji REALA...you will not reget it. Also, get it printed on a Fuji
Frontier Mini-Lab...you will not regret that either.
 
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