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Fujifilm B&W film question

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ColynG? - 20 Mar 2005 23:44 GMT
Has anybody used Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros black and white film and if
so, what is your impression?
What is the best developer to use with this film?

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uraniumcommittee@yahoo.com - 20 Mar 2005 23:48 GMT
ColynG© wrote:
> Has anybody used Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros black and white film and if
> so, what is your impression?
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> http://home.swbell.net/colyng
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Yes, it is very good. Any good developer will work fine with it. I use
Acutol, but D-76 should be very good.
ColynG? - 20 Mar 2005 23:59 GMT
>> Has anybody used Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros black and white film and if
>> so, what is your impression?
>> What is the best developer to use with this film?
>>
>Yes, it is very good. Any good developer will work fine with it. I use
>Acutol, but D-76 should be very good.

D-76 has long been a favorite of mine as well as HC-110.

Thanks

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uraniumcommittee@yahoo.com - 21 Mar 2005 00:01 GMT
Start at D-76 1:1 for about 8 minutes, @ 68F and see how you do. What
format are you using?

ColynG© wrote:

> >> Has anybody used Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros black and white film and if
> >> so, what is your impression?
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Keith Tapscott - 24 Mar 2005 21:23 GMT
I have just bought a roll of Fuji 100 Acros, and the suggested starting
point time for D-76 that Fuji give is 10.5 minutes when diluted 1+1, are you
using a condenser type enlarger to print with?  I am not disputing your
suggested time and you obviously have a system of film processing that works
for you,  its just that when I curtail the developing times given by the
film manufacturer, I tend to find that the tonality of my prints sometimes
look like cigar ash and have poor blacks and dirty looking highlights if the
film is radically pulled at the developing stage. Perhaps this is because I
am using a diffuse light source enlarger.
I would like to know which enlarger type, brand and model that you are
using.
I will probably start with the manufacturers time and then adjust it to suit
my own enlarger but your recommendation of 8 minutes has made me curious
from a point of view as to where I should start from.

Start at D-76 1:1 for about 8 minutes, @ 68F and see how you do. What
format are you using?

ColynG? wrote:

> >> Has anybody used Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros black and white film and
if
> >> so, what is your impression?
> >> What is the best developer to use with this film?
> >>
> >Yes, it is very good. Any good developer will work fine with it. I
use
> >Acutol, but D-76 should be very good.
> >
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> http://www.colyngoodson.com
Little Green Eyed Dragon - 24 Mar 2005 22:29 GMT
> I have just bought a roll of Fuji 100 Acros, and the suggested starting
> point time for D-76 that Fuji give is 10.5 minutes when diluted 1+1, are you
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> my own enlarger but your recommendation of 8 minutes has made me curious
> from a point of view as to where I should start from.

The troll only knows 35mm film, he only uses a condenser head
and only advocates using grade 3 as a baseline contrast filtration.

Ignore him you"ll be better off in the long term.
uraniumcommittee@yahoo.com - 24 Mar 2005 22:48 GMT
"The troll only knows 35mm film, he only uses a condenser head
and only advocates using grade 3 as a baseline contrast filtration."

That's because by trial and error this has proved itself....
F.C. Trevor Gale - 28 Mar 2005 15:09 GMT
Greetings;

"Trial end error" has proven 35mm film to be better than 120 6 x 7 for
example? This defies even logic!

"Trial and error" has proven use of grade 3 as a baseline for all things
photographic? Same comment.

Michael, why not go and earn some serious money by advising all of the
photo/film companies to immediately drop anything else except grade 3
paper and 35mm film. I'm sure they would be amazed by your in-depth
vision of the realities of the requirements of the photographic process.

> "The troll only knows 35mm film, he only uses a condenser head
> and only advocates using grade 3 as a baseline contrast filtration."
>
> That's because by trial and error this has proved itself....
uraniumcommittee@yahoo.com - 28 Mar 2005 15:41 GMT
> Greetings;
>
> "Trial end error" has proven 35mm film to be better than 120 6 x 7 for
> example? This defies even logic!

Not what I said.

> "Trial and error" has proven use of grade 3 as a baseline for all things
> photographic? Same comment.

Minor White, Zone System Manual:

"With roll film use the #3 contrast grade of enlarging paper, or its
equivalent. With sheet film standardize on the #2 medium contrast
grade." (p. 74)

"As was said the #2 contrast grade of projection paper is standard
with sheet film and the #3 with roll film. The first is chosen because
its contrast is midway between the harder and softer contrast grades.
The #3 contrast grade is consistent with the general practice for small
negatives." (p. 77)

Now, what were you saying?

> Michael, why not go and earn some serious money by advising all of the
> photo/film companies to immediately drop anything else except grade 3

> paper and 35mm film. I'm sure they would be amazed by your in-depth
> vision of the realities of the requirements of the photographic process.
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> >
> > That's because by trial and error this has proved itself....
uraniumcommittee@yahoo.com - 28 Mar 2005 16:01 GMT
> Greetings;
>
> "Trial end error" has proven 35mm film to be better than 120 6 x 7 for
> example? This defies even logic!

No, I didn't say that.

> "Trial and error" has proven use of grade 3 as a baseline for all things
> photographic? Same comment.

No, for roll film.

I quote:

"With roll film use the #3 contrast grade of enlarging paper, or its
equivalent. With sheet film standardize on the #2 medium contrast
grade." (p. 74)

"As was said the #2 contrast grade of projection paper is standard
with sheet film and the #3 with roll film. The first is chosen because
its contrast is midway between the harder and softer contrast grades.
The #3 contrast grade is consistent with the general practice for small
negatives." (p77)

Minor White, Zone System Manual

OK, now what were you saying?

> Michael, why not go and earn some serious money by advising all of the
> photo/film companies to immediately drop anything else except grade 3

> paper and 35mm film. I'm sure they would be amazed by your in-depth
> vision of the realities of the requirements of the photographic process.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> > That's because by trial and error this has proved itself....
Gregory Blank - 21 Mar 2005 04:13 GMT
> Has anybody used Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros black and white film and if
> so, what is your impression?
> What is the best developer to use with this film?

I wrote an article for View Camera Magazine about 1 -1/2
years back, the developer depends on the negative size.

The choices I used were D23, PMK and HC-110. The film
is a very predictable film, good resolution and good grain
least for 4x5. Personally to start you might try using one
of the more dilute forms of HC110 -like E dilution....
and test for your personal EI of the film and cameras you use.

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