5x7 color prints plus high-rez scans?

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Tombo - 10 Mar 2005 23:01 GMT

Hi all,

I have tried the Kodak Picture CD which provides fairly low rez
(1024x1536) scans and leaves the CD over 90% empty. how nice.

Is there a reasonable way get a roll of 24 exposure color print film
developed and printed at 5"x7" with high-resolution film scan on CD?

Thanks, Tom

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Michael Weinstein - 11 Mar 2005 00:13 GMT

> Hi all,
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> Thanks, Tom

Long ago (well, in the '90s) Kodak had not the Picture CD but the Photo
CD which did have multiple resolution scans. The highest resolution
scan was pretty good for 8x10. I have some. I don't know if they still
do it.

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Bill Tuthill - 11 Mar 2005 00:21 GMT

> I have tried the Kodak Picture CD which provides fairly low rez
> (1024x1536) scans and leaves the CD over 90% empty. how nice.

They could give them to you in TIFF format, but then it might compete
with lousy digital cameras another arm of the company is trying to sell.

> Is there a reasonable way get a roll of 24 exposure color print film
> developed and printed at 5"x7" with high-resolution film scan on CD?

An Agfa d-Lab can make good-quality 3000x2000 pixel scans on CDR, also
unfortunately JPEG, for around $8 per roll. Here is a lab finder.
Zip code and telephone code didn't work well yesterday, so specify
a large nearby city or town.

http://www.agfanet.com/en/dealerloc/cont_category.php3?item=1hservice

Noritsu QSS labs also produce better scans from film than Frontier labs,
but I have no idea how to find a QSS lab near you.

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dooey - 11 Mar 2005 13:02 GMT

> > I have tried the Kodak Picture CD which provides fairly low rez
> > (1024x1536) scans and leaves the CD over 90% empty. how nice.
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> Noritsu QSS labs also produce better scans from film than Frontier labs,
> but I have no idea how to find a QSS lab near you.

I know of a pro-labs that has returned d-labs due to soft scans. D-labs do
have a slighly higher output but when it comes to scans I have to disagree.
Of course, there are a few different d-labs and a few different Frontiers. I
don't know very much about digital Noritsu.

And...as always, the difference between a poor operator and a good one can
make all the difference.

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dooey.

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Bill Tuthill - 11 Mar 2005 17:10 GMT

> I know of a pro-labs that has returned d-labs due to soft scans. D-labs do
> have a slighly higher output but when it comes to scans I have to disagree.
> Of course, there are a few different d-labs and a few different Frontiers.
> I don't know very much about digital Noritsu.

Frontier lab scans aren't "soft" but they have an objectionable mesh pattern
that perhaps is intended to look like magazine halftone screening, but on a
monitor or inkjet printer looks like complete crap.

Perhaps Fuji has improved scanning in some Frontier models, but the Frontier
ranks at the bottom of the list in scan quality for me and for many posters
on photo.net, where you can see actual examples.

One guy who works in a Noritsu QSS lab posted a scan that was excellent,
but I'm not sure actual customers have access to such high resolution.

My complaint about the Agfa d-Lab.2 is mostly that I want TIFF instead of
JPEG scans, and considering that they are writing quality 98 JPEG files,
it is stupid not to have 1:1 chroma subsampling turned on.

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dooey - 11 Mar 2005 18:36 GMT

> > I know of a pro-labs that has returned d-labs due to soft scans. D-labs do
> > have a slighly higher output but when it comes to scans I have to disagree.
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> that perhaps is intended to look like magazine halftone screening, but on a
> monitor or inkjet printer looks like complete crap.

Interesting.

Are these poor scans with hyper sharpness turned off. I believe most pro
labs drop the sharpening when outputting to Pro CD or other external
outputs.

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Dooey

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RSD99 - 11 Mar 2005 23:52 GMT

"Bill Tuthill" posted:
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Noritsu QSS labs also produce better scans from film than Frontier labs,
but I have no idea how to find a QSS lab near you.
..."

Check with your local Costco ... most of their equipment is Noritsu, and
their prices are certainly "aggressive."

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Tom Russell - 14 Mar 2005 21:18 GMT

Most labs, mine included, provide both normal quality and high quality
scans. The 1536x1024 size, and a 2000x3000 (6 megapixel) scan which is
more than enough for most uses.

If kodak don't do it or have an option to do it, the solution is simple
- switch labs. Look for someone with an agfa d-lab.1/2/3 (as that's what
i use - i KNOW it can do high quality scans) - most independents
normally have good photo gear.

Regards,
Tom.

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