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tenchman - 09 Oct 2004 23:48 GMT
Hi Group,

I am informed by my film supplier that Kodak are ceasing production of the
Royal Supra range of film.
As most will know that the Supra range were ideal for neg scanning having
such a small grain size.

Is this the start of the end of film as we know it??
And is it the start of the end of the Kodak film market, are they following
Agfa?

David.
Aymeric Peyret - 10 Oct 2004 00:45 GMT
> Hi Group,
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> David.

Do you mean that Agfa will cease producing films ?.. They stopped APX 25
and Ortho 25 (Ultra50 is now nore or less replaced) and sheet films, but
 I never heard that they stopped other productions (their consumer
imaging part will be a separate society with name Agfaphoto and the same
red rhombus logo...). Kodak is not following Agfa, but preceding...

Aymeric
DaveHodge - 10 Oct 2004 01:22 GMT
<< Kodak are ceasing production of the
> Royal Supra range of film. >>

There have been several suggestions in the past month to the effect that we
should all purchase a 5 year supply of whatever Kodak film we might need, in
anticipation of the possibility that in 5 years there may not be any more Kodak
roll film.
Mark Dunn - 10 Oct 2004 12:04 GMT
Kodak were very quiet about film at Photokina. Just one small display case
in hall 4.
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Robert Feinman - 10 Oct 2004 15:32 GMT
> Hi Group,
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> David.

Kodak suggests switching to portra, but it is either 160 or 400. I suggest
trying fuji.
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Bill Tuthill - 11 Oct 2004 17:46 GMT
In rec.photo.film+labs tenchman <tenchman@spamoff.ie> wrote:

> I am informed by my film supplier that Kodak are ceasing production
> of the Royal Supra range of film.  As most will know the Supra range
> were ideal for neg scanning having such a small grain size.

At Photokina, Kodak implied that Royal Supra was to be replaced by,
or renamed as, Elite Color (not to be confused with Elite Chrome).

My condolences, it's always unnerving when a photographer's
favorite film disappears or gets revised, sometimes for the worse.
tenchman - 11 Oct 2004 20:58 GMT
Hi Group,
Just received the following reply from Kodak, note the lack of sympathy,
also note in the attachment there is no mention of Supra 200.
What planet do these people live on?

David

"Dear Sir,
Please see attached link for replacement film.
Regards

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/e2519/e2519.jhtml

    "David Neal"
     09/10/2004 23:37

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             Subject:        Photographic Film/paper/chemicals

Question:  Hi there,
I am a web and graphics person, this entails a
large amount of photography, all (negatives) of
which I scan for use in my projects. I am
looking for high res with low grain images.
I have been using Supra since it came out and
have been delighted with it as with the later
Royal Supra. Using 200,400 & sometimes 800.
As a scanning medium it is without doubt the
best available.
However I am now informed by my film supplier
that this is now being discontinued.
Is this some form of photographic suicide?
To discontinue a sucessful produt without a
suitable replacement surely rates as profesional
suicide, if you lose your customer base at times
of a shrinking market to a rival company you
might never get them back.
Have you considered the effects on small
busineses like mine, I very much doubt it.
So much for customer loyalty.
At this time I will have to reconsider my
options, and I have to say that if I have to
purchase film from another company I will have
to consider also purchsing their matching papers.

Finally I must ask you to earnestly reconsider
this rash decision."

> Hi Group,
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> David.
 
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