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Blurred pictures from agfa vista 400 C !

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pomodorojimmy - 18 Aug 2004 04:35 GMT
Hi, I've just had a roll developed of the above film and noticed that
all the shots are slightly blurred. Initially I thought the printing
was at fault, but the scanned negatives are also blurred. A wide angle
zoom was used for most shots, set at the hyperfocal distance. The
previous roll of the same film was very sharp. I used a different lab
for this roll.
Considering that the lens did a fine job before, is it possible that
the film somehow gives blurred images or that the processing lab is to
blame? Has anyone ever had this problem?

Thanks, Jimmy
RSD99 - 18 Aug 2004 06:12 GMT
"pomodorojimmy"  asked:
"...
is it possible that
the film somehow gives blurred images or that the processing lab is to
blame?
...

No.

If your images are "blurred" ... it happened in the camera, when it was exposed. Either it
was out of focus, the subject moved, or the camera was moved during the exposure.

> Hi, I've just had a roll developed of the above film and noticed that
> all the shots are slightly blurred. Initially I thought the printing
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks, Jimmy
Rod Smith - 18 Aug 2004 22:07 GMT
> "pomodorojimmy"  asked:
> "...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> If your images are "blurred" ... it happened in the camera, when it was exposed. Either it
> was out of focus, the subject moved, or the camera was moved during the exposure.

There could also be mechanical problems with the camera. For instance,
the mirror might be out of alignment, which would make the on-film focus
different from what you'd see through the viewfinder. Technically, this
is covered by your "out of focus" case, but I thought it bore explicit
mention.

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pomodorojimmy - 19 Aug 2004 05:02 GMT
Thank you all for your replies. What gets me though, is that this is
the first time that I have changed labs in 4 years. I initially stuck
to my usual lab after receiving back prints that were in focus time
after time, unlike most places I have tried.. Any slip-up was always
my fault.
This time I decided to try a cheaper shopping mall service who have a
new looking agfa machine. I got back great looking pictures. Actually
amazing pictures where both shade and in the sun detail was there on
the same picture.  I don't get this from my usual lab, normally either
the shade or sunlit detail is lost to some extent if  they are both
present. But, the negatives are not as sharp as they could be. Some
were taken at 28mm, f/8 with a tripod. A lot should be in focus. I
focussed at 4m, everything from 1.8 to infinity should have been
focused, even if the mirror is a little out, something in the picture
should be in focus, but everything has a slight fuzz to it- its not
the grain. I have ektachrome in the camera now, and will report on the
quality of the slides when I finish the roll on this thread. Same lens
will be used.

Regards, Jimmy

> > "pomodorojimmy"  asked:
> > "...
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> is covered by your "out of focus" case, but I thought it bore explicit
> mention.
pomodorojimmy - 19 Aug 2004 05:03 GMT
Thank you all for your replies. What gets me though, is that this is
the first time that I have changed labs in 4 years. I initially stuck
to my usual lab after receiving back prints that were in focus time
after time, unlike most places I have tried.. Any slip-up was always
my fault.
This time I decided to try a cheaper shopping mall service who have a
new looking agfa machine. I got back great looking pictures. Actually
amazing pictures where both shade and in the sun detail was there on
the same picture.  I don't get this from my usual lab, normally either
the shade or sunlit detail is lost to some extent if  they are both
present. But, the negatives are not as sharp as they could be. Some
were taken at 28mm, f/8 with a tripod. A lot should be in focus. I
focussed at 4m, everything from 1.8 to infinity should have been
focused, even if the mirror is a little out, something in the picture
should be in focus, but everything has a slight fuzz to it- its not
the grain. I have ektachrome in the camera now, and will report on the
quality of the slides when I finish the roll on this thread. Same lens
will be used.

Regards, Jimmy

> > "pomodorojimmy"  asked:
> > "...
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> is covered by your "out of focus" case, but I thought it bore explicit
> mention.
Rod Smith - 19 Aug 2004 16:03 GMT
> the negatives are not as sharp as they could be. Some
> were taken at 28mm, f/8 with a tripod. A lot should be in focus. I
> focussed at 4m, everything from 1.8 to infinity should have been
> focused, even if the mirror is a little out, something in the picture
> should be in focus, but everything has a slight fuzz to it

Have you checked your lens? Perhaps it's gotten dirty (dust, oil, etc.) or
has taken a shock that's knocked one of the elements out of alignment.
There might also be something affecting the positioning of the film in the
camera.

> I have ektachrome in the camera now, and will report on the
> quality of the slides when I finish the roll on this thread. Same lens
> will be used.

If the problem persists, you might want to try another lens for a quick
test roll and then take the lens, the camera body, or both (depending on
the outcome of the test) to a shop to have them examined.

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Author of books on Linux, FreeBSD, and networking

dooey - 18 Aug 2004 11:23 GMT
> Hi, I've just had a roll developed of the above film and noticed that
> all the shots are slightly blurred. Initially I thought the printing
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks, Jimmy

The lab is not guilty on that one.

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Dooey.
 
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