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HP 5 + Rodinal  = Grainy prints ?

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Magic - 08 Jun 2004 01:35 GMT
I just developed ( first time in 17 years ) my two HP 5 films in Rodinal 1+
25 @ 68 F for 8 min just like the instruction says and then stopped and
fixed in Kodak chemicals.
The subjects where outdoors , some in the shadow , some indoors daylight but
none with flash
And the prints where done by my local foto shop ( so far very happy with
them ) on Fuji Frontier machine on color paper ( all they carry ) 4X6 size
and they are "very grainy"
Now my question is ... is it possible that I screwed up negs or the lab
screwed prints or they are going to be grainy ( 400 ASA ) or I should have
used different developer? to get less grain
Any answers are much appreciated Thanks  Magic
David Kilpatrick - 08 Jun 2004 11:28 GMT
> I just developed ( first time in 17 years ) my two HP 5 films in Rodinal 1+
> 25 @ 68 F for 8 min just like the instruction says and then stopped and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> used different developer? to get less grain
> Any answers are much appreciated Thanks  Magic

Your header said it all : HP5+ Rodinal = grainy prints. It ain't what
Rodinal was meant for!

David
Al Doyle - 08 Jun 2004 11:46 GMT
Magic:
Rodinal is well known for producing very sharp images,
but that sharpness comes at the cost of very high grain.
Try HC-110 instead. Not as sharp, longer tonal scale,
and  much less grain.

Al Doyle

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> I just developed ( first time in 17 years ) my two HP 5 films in Rodinal 1+
> 25 @ 68 F for 8 min just like the instruction says and then stopped and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> used different developer? to get less grain
> Any answers are much appreciated Thanks  Magic
Dana Myers - 08 Jun 2004 17:31 GMT
> Now my question is ... is it possible that I screwed up negs or the lab
> screwed prints or they are going to be grainy ( 400 ASA ) or I should have
> used different developer? to get less grain

Rodinal and HP5 (or Tri-X) is *quite* grainy to my eye
(Rodinal is known to enhance sharpness ;-) ).

I would suggest trying D-76 (or Ilford's equivalent ID-11).

Dana
Michael Scarpitti - 08 Jun 2004 20:38 GMT
> I just developed ( first time in 17 years ) my two HP 5 films in Rodinal 1+
> 25 @ 68 F for 8 min just like the instruction says and then stopped and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> used different developer? to get less grain
> Any answers are much appreciated Thanks  Magic

WAY too much development! Try 1+50 for 8 minutes.
Michael A. Covington - 10 Jun 2004 01:26 GMT
You used a grainy film and a very old-technology (vintage 1887) coarse-grain
developer...

HP5 was designed for modern developers such as Ilford ID-11 or Kodak D-76.

But it is still a somewhat grainy film.

> I just developed ( first time in 17 years ) my two HP 5 films in Rodinal 1+
> 25 @ 68 F for 8 min just like the instruction says and then stopped and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> used different developer? to get less grain
> Any answers are much appreciated Thanks  Magic
 
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