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Eric Colar - 17 Jun 2004 07:19 GMT
I have heard from many people that keeping the films in the fridge (i.e.
4?C) is the best way.
I am wondering whether the humidity level generally found in a fridge may be
of any concern?
Thanks

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Mark A - 17 Jun 2004 07:47 GMT
> I have heard from many people that keeping the films in the fridge (i.e.
> 4?C) is the best way.
> I am wondering whether the humidity level generally found in a fridge may be
> of any concern?
> Thanks

You should keep film and paper in the fridge, or even better the freezer.
Assuming the film is still sealed in the packaging from the factory, this
will not be a problem. If not sealed, you can seal it yourself in some
plastic food bags (do they have these in France?).
K. Bibis - 17 Jun 2004 13:17 GMT
> plastic food bags (do they have these in France?).

Possibly not - they are used to high quality fresh food, not frozen
microwaveable some other people are used to.

To the point, i think it's more important to develop the film soon after
you've exposed it, rather than being paranoid about the humidity levels.
Apart from a general 'keep them cool' rule, having them in the fridge or
freezer is recommended if you want to keep consistency of proffesional films
that have been kept inthe fridge from the minute they left the factory.
Eric Colar - 17 Jun 2004 14:30 GMT
Thanks for your info.
I'll go for the fridge in plastic bags - we have them here in France, as bad
eating habits have already reached us too :)

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> > plastic food bags (do they have these in France?).
>
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> freezer is recommended if you want to keep consistency of proffesional films
> that have been kept inthe fridge from the minute they left the factory.
Michael A. Covington - 17 Jun 2004 14:46 GMT
> I have heard from many people that keeping the films in the fridge (i.e.
> 4?C) is the best way.
> I am wondering whether the humidity level generally found in a fridge may be
> of any concern?

That's why the film is in plastic cans.  You should always keep the plastic
can closed until the film warms up to ambient temperature.
Javi - 17 Jun 2004 21:07 GMT
Hi Eric,

I put my film in a tupperware and, for security, I use to put inside
also two or three silica gel dessecant bags. Never had a problem. :-)

> I have heard from many people that keeping the films in the fridge (i.e.
> 4°C) is the best way.
> I am wondering whether the humidity level generally found in a fridge may be
> of any concern?
> Thanks
Alvaro - 27 Jun 2004 13:28 GMT
That's right, keeping your film in cold and dry contions will increase
its lifetime, just take the film and put it into plastic bags in order
to keep it from humidity and you'll be able to use your film months
later than the expiration date says.

Hi from Spain,
Álvaro

> I have heard from many people that keeping the films in the fridge (i.e.
> 4°C) is the best way.
> I am wondering whether the humidity level generally found in a fridge may be
> of any concern?
> Thanks
Javi - 27 Jun 2004 22:31 GMT
> Hi from Spain,
> Álvaro

Cuidado, que por aquí hay un americano que no se cree que en Europa
estemos tan civilizados como para tener bolsas herméticas. :-)
Mark A - 27 Jun 2004 22:38 GMT
> > Hi from Spain,
> > ?lvaro
>
> Cuidado, que por aqu? hay un americano que no se cree que en Europa
> estemos tan civilizados como para tener bolsas herm?ticas. :-)

What does plastic food bags have to do with civilization?
Javi - 27 Jun 2004 23:39 GMT
>>>Hi from Spain,
>>>Álvaro
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>
> What does plastic food bags have to do with civilization?

I don't know if civilization is used commonly meaning "progress", but
I've read this in The American Heritage Dictionary:

"Civilization: An advanced state of intellectual, cultural, and material
development in human society, marked by progress in the arts and
sciences, the extensive use of record-keeping, including writing, and
the appearance of complex political and social institutions."

I suppose extensive use of plastic food bags, 2 ply toilet paper or
plastic bottles is "material development". For me, it's funny that many
americans thinks that our "material development" isn't too much high.

Nothing to be annoyed, I think. :-)
Mark A - 27 Jun 2004 23:50 GMT
> I don't know if civilization is used commonly meaning "progress", but
> I've read this in The American Heritage Dictionary:
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>
> Nothing to be annoyed, I think. :-)

No but many Americans think that French eat fresh food and store stuff in
the freezer. I think you are a little paranoid.
Javi - 27 Jun 2004 23:58 GMT
> No but many Americans think that French eat fresh food and store stuff in
> the freezer. I think you are a little paranoid.

Sorry, no paranoid. I've met Americans very surprised because here
(Spain) we use the most common equipment. :-)
Mark A - 28 Jun 2004 00:19 GMT
> > No but many Americans think that French eat fresh food and store stuff in
> > the freezer. I think you are a little paranoid.
>
> Sorry, no paranoid. I've met Americans very surprised because here
> (Spain) we use the most common equipment. :-)

The American tourists spent a lot of money to travel to a far away place,
and they were hoping to see something different than back home.

BTW, I meant to say "and DO NOT store stuff in the freezer."
don hodgdon - 30 Jun 2004 02:32 GMT
> > > No but many Americans think that French eat fresh food and store stuff
> in
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> The American tourists spent a lot of money to travel to a far away place,
> and they were hoping to see something different than back home.

You mean like the European tourists I met in Phoenix who wanted to know
where we kept the Cowboys and Indians?

dp
Sander Vesik - 30 Jun 2004 18:50 GMT
> > > > No but many Americans think that French eat fresh food and store stuff
> > in
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> You mean like the European tourists I met in Phoenix who wanted to know
> where we kept the Cowboys and Indians?

They were probably from Netherlands but not wearing wooden shoes nor
living in a windmill ;-)

> dp

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+++ Out of cheese error +++

Javi - 28 Jun 2004 00:20 GMT
By the way, we also have coffee filters. But do you know all the uses of
them? ;-)

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