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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Film and Labs / May 2005Fuji NPH and in / out of dateness
Statisticly speaking what is the likelyhood that slightly out of date Fuji NPH gives much worse results than a still in-date Fuji NPH? This is a sort of 'assessing a gift horse' question.  SignatureSander +++ Out of cheese error +++ >Statisticly speaking what is the likelyhood that slightly out >of date Fuji NPH gives much worse results than a still in-date >Fuji NPH? Take a look at expired vs. fresh Velvia: http://www.spinics.net/photo/expired.html > >Statisticly speaking what is the likelyhood that slightly out > >of date Fuji NPH gives much worse results than a still in-date [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.spinics.net/photo/expired.html the pictures seem to be on a server (www.fnet.net) that doesn't have a dns entry :( SignatureSander +++ Out of cheese error +++ >> Take a look at expired vs. fresh Velvia: >> >> http://www.spinics.net/photo/expired.html > > the pictures seem to be on a server (www.fnet.net) that doesn't > have a dns entry :( Maybe not the DNS entries in your country of EE, whereever that is, it not being listed as an ISO 3166 country code! Try 66.254.95.226 (that's what my DNS lists for spinics.net). "Bill Tuthill" posted: "... in your country of EE, whereever that is, it not being listed as an ISO 3166 country code! ..." From the list of Internet Domain Codes EC Ecuador EE Estonia EG Egypt EH Western Sahara ES Spain ET Ethiopia FWIW: Estonia is one of the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republic countries. > "Bill Tuthill" posted: > "... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > FWIW: Estonia is one of the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republic countries. PFFFFT!!! Its a former occupied by the USSR country that is now part of EU :P Not that it all really matters that much. SignatureSander +++ Out of cheese error +++ >>> Take a look at expired vs. fresh Velvia: >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Maybe not the DNS entries in your country of EE, whereever that is, Estonia. >it not being listed as an ISO 3166 country code! Doesn't work here (Paris) either. >>Maybe not the DNS entries in your country of EE, whereever that is, > > Estonia. Way past time to update my ISO 3166 list!! My list does have Latvia and Lithuania, and says the USSR is obsolete. Was Estonia given its independence later than the other two? >> spinics.net 66.254.95.226 > > Doesn't work here (Paris) either. Did the IP address work? Spinics.net seems to be a personal domain given out by ftel.net, so perhaps there is another named route to it. "Bill Tuthill" posted: "... Was Estonia given its independence later than the other two? ..." I don't know ... but it was at lest prior to 1998. Methinks your list *is* a bit outdated! > "Bill Tuthill" posted: > "... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I don't know ... but it was at lest prior to 1998. Methinks your list *is* a bit outdated! fnet.net isn't in the DNSs of EE, FR or even COM, wherever it is, Bill. ;-) You could access both pictures from: http://www.spinics.net/yosemite/index5.html >>>Take a look at expired vs. fresh Velvia: >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Try 66.254.95.226 (that's what my DNS lists for spinics.net). fnet.net doesn't come through in Canada either, so it's possible that it's an old site that's stuck in your cache somewhere. Spinics.net comes through but not the picture links. Paul > fnet.net doesn't come through in Canada either, so it's possible that > it's an old site that's stuck in your cache somewhere. Spinics.net > comes through but not the picture links. The page that links the pictures is outdated. Try this one: http://www.spinics.net/yosemite/index5.html Sorry, I missed that page when I moved to my own server. The page and the pictures are working now. > Statisticly speaking what is the likelyhood that slightly out > of date Fuji NPH gives much worse results than a still in-date > Fuji NPH? This is a sort of 'assessing a gift horse' question. Ordinarily it would make little difference if the NPH were only a little out of date, but Fuji recently revised NPH. I like the new emulsion a lot! I didn't like the old one, though some people did. You can tell the new emulsion by the words "New!" printed in red on one corner of the box. Ellis, NPH is 3 times as fast as Velvia 50. Raw stock keeping (RSK) is always worse with faster films. I don't know if the relationship is linear or exponential. > > Statisticly speaking what is the likelyhood that slightly out > > of date Fuji NPH gives much worse results than a still in-date [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You can tell the new emulsion by the words "New!" printed in red > on one corner of the box. Ah. So if I shoot a bunch of old films then I cannot use that as a guideline of how the new NPH - or possibly NPH I would just buy from a shop at a future point - would work? This would be a pity 8-( From my limited expperience so far, it takes a lot of rolls to get to the point where I get what i expect from a film. But ok, I only have experience with consumer films so far. > Ellis, NPH is 3 times as fast as Velvia 50. Raw stock keeping (RSK) > is always worse with faster films. I don't know if the relationship > is linear or exponential. Maybe looking at the expiry date on fresh out of factory films would be one way to gauge this? SignatureSander +++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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