Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
in a few years?
I hear this 3 times this week.
I was told at a camera store that I would be better of stopping in my
tracks, and moving over to Digital.
And that developing will get harder to come by, and will cost more.
Will Fuji, or Agfa follow?
Thanks for helping me with this,
Bob
Gary W. McIntyre - 23 Apr 2004 02:22 GMT
> Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> in a few years?
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Bob,
Kodak will be the last one to cease production of film... historically
they have supported older formats well after the other manufacturers
have stopped.
Film and processing (chemical and dry) will still be around for at least
5 to 10 years...
Bob - 23 Apr 2004 03:49 GMT
> > Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> > in a few years?
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> Film and processing (chemical and dry) will still be around for at least
> 5 to 10 years...
Thank you for the info. Kodak is world wide, I find it hard to think that
they would get out of film, when the greater part of the world is still
using it.
Thanks,
Bob
Gordon Moat - 23 Apr 2004 04:19 GMT
> Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> in a few years?
They just bought major interest in a film producing company in China. It
appears that film sale outside of North America, Europe and Japan are really
booming.
> I hear this 3 times this week.
Yeah, and Apple Computer is also out of business . . . oops, that was last
weeks news . . .
> I was told at a camera store that I would be better of stopping in my
> tracks, and moving over to Digital.
> And that developing will get harder to come by, and will cost more.
The local Rite Aide stores in southern California are all putting in new
minilabs. Maybe B/W films, or transparency films (slides) might get tough to
get down, but colour negative has a long way to go.
There is just too much profit still in film, and as long as there is profit,
there will be film. Technology has nothing to do with this, it is simply
companies that want to make money.
> Will Fuji, or Agfa follow?
If Kodak drops out of the film market, after the giant sucking noise, you will
hear Fuji and AGFA taking over that hole in the market share. AGFA already has
made big market share gains in one time use cameras (disposables). Fuji has
captured some of the film sales and processing market from Kodak in North
America within the last four years, though I am sure they would like an even
larger slice of those profits.
> Thanks for helping me with this,
> Bob
As long as some companies profit from film, it will be sold, produced, and
processed. Now that might mean only buying films at a department store, and
only getting prints at one hour places, but you will not see it disappear in
your lifetime.
Whomever at the camera store told you that is an idiot, or is merely trying to
screw you out of your money by pushing you into some expensive direct digital
camera. Remember, most of these guys could be selling stereos or used cars next
month, and few have much interest in photography.
If you really want the ease of use of digital, and sending pictures to your
friends electronically, then get a mobile phone camera. Wireless imaging is the
next big thing, and I think within 3 years you may not see low priced direct
digital (P&S style) cameras anymore. Phone camera sales are already much higher
volume than direct digital cameras, and are much easier to use. Get one of
those.
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
A G Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com
Michael A. Covington - 10 Jun 2004 01:34 GMT
> As long as some companies profit from film, it will be sold, produced, and
> processed. Now that might mean only buying films at a department store, and
> only getting prints at one hour places, but you will not see it disappear in
> your lifetime.
More likely an art supply store or professional camera store.
Stuart Droker - 23 Apr 2004 19:42 GMT
Not so. Kodak, Fuji and Agfa will still continue to produce films. They
may narrow the types of film available, but will still continue to produce.
> Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> in a few years?
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Francis A. Miniter - 23 Apr 2004 20:11 GMT
Kodak just last year built and opened a new plant to make black and
white film.
Francis A. Miniter
>Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
>in a few years?
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Bob - 24 Apr 2004 15:43 GMT
Thank you all for the reply.
I had a feeling that most of what I heard was just salesman talk, and you
know how that is.
I was hoping that you all might have heard something that I was not aware
of. I had been out of the business for some time now, and wanted to be sure
what way the wind was blowing. ;-)
Even if Kodak stopped sales here in the US, there is still Kodak gray market
from Europe. But even if the older did stop all together, there will indeed
be Agfa, Fuji, and Ilford.
Most people in the world cannot afford digital cameras. They still use film,
and will for some time now I am sure.
Thanks,
Bob
> Kodak just last year built and opened a new plant to make black and
> white film.
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Ron Baird - 26 Apr 2004 20:53 GMT
Hi Bob,
Not to worry Bob, Kodak is NOT going to stop making film. That medium will
be around for a long time. I am not sure about where you heard this rumor
but put it to rest! Kodak never made any announcement about discontinuing
film?
Talk to you soon, let me know if you have questions.
Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
> Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> in a few years?
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DM - 27 Apr 2004 10:51 GMT
> Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> in a few years?
> I hear this 3 times this week.
No, it's not going to happen, and neither will Fuji stop. In fact, Fuji
just unleashed a whole range of new films : Velvia 100F, Astia 100F, etc.
and Kodak has come out with their HD range. Film is here to stay, for
quite a while.
Michael A. Covington - 10 Jun 2004 01:33 GMT
> Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making film
> in a few years?
> I hear this 3 times this week.
Kodak has made no such announcement. They have announced that they are
shifting their *main* effort to digital, but that's a *long* way from
discontinuing all film!
I figure film will die out after oil painting dies out.
Having said that -- I do a lot more digital photography than film
photography, because my main use for pictures is to post them on the Web or
publish them in books and magazine articles. That is, photographic prints
are not the end product.
David Kilpatrick - 10 Jun 2004 11:24 GMT
>>Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making
>
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> publish them in books and magazine articles. That is, photographic prints
> are not the end product.
This is a February 2004 rumour, based on misreporting (I am guilty as
well as many others) of a Kodak Europe press release stating that Kodak
would be pulling out of 35mm film CAMERA manufacturing... not 35mm film
itself!
David
Michael A. Covington - 10 Jun 2004 16:06 GMT
> >>Have any of you heard the Kodak, will be stopping developing, or making
>
> This is a February 2004 rumour, based on misreporting (I am guilty as
> well as many others) of a Kodak Europe press release stating that Kodak
> would be pulling out of 35mm film CAMERA manufacturing... not 35mm film
> itself!
Ah! Thanks for the data point!