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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Film and Labs / April 2004Kodak UC100/Reala Comparison
Finally had a chance to shoot these side by side, and have posted some comparisons. Note that this is only a grain and sharpness comparison. I'll test for saturation, accuracy, etc when a little color returns to my world. http://h00805ffe2420.ne.client2.attbi.com/uc100/ > Finally had a chance to shoot these side by side, and have posted some > comparisons. Note that this is only a grain and sharpness comparison. I'll > test for saturation, accuracy, etc when a little color returns to my world. > > http://h00805ffe2420.ne.client2.attbi.com/uc100/ Those films look surprisingly close! Just as new NPH and 400UC are close. I completed my initial test of 100UC today, and can report that there were indeed 37 exposures on the roll! Could have gotten 38 if my camera didn't overwind at the beginning of every roll. Once the sun comes out, I'll have a chance to see what color and contrast looks like. The scene I shot was terribly flat with no color. They do look close, don't they? Also, the new stuff looks good enough for 30 x 40s from MF negs. We'll see. I'm hoping it's a good landscape film. > > Finally had a chance to shoot these side by side, and have posted some > > comparisons. Note that this is only a grain and sharpness comparison. I'll [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > indeed 37 exposures on the roll! Could have gotten 38 if my camera didn't > overwind at the beginning of every roll. > Once the sun comes out, I'll have a chance to see what color and contrast > looks like. The scene I shot was terribly flat with no color. Here in California we have lots of color already. I took pictures of ROYGBV flowers on a bright sunny day, then again on an overcast day. I didn't like the way 100UC handled orange on the overcast day, though in direct sunlight orange poppies looked fine. > They do look close, don't they? Also, the new stuff looks good enough for > 30 x 40s from MF negs. We'll see. I'm hoping it's a good landscape film. Greens are quite good with 100UC, something you might appreciate for landscapes. I find greens one of the weakest areas for Reala, because all shades look a bit cyan, even olives and yellow-greens. If you have landscapes with lots of blue sky, I think you'll be more satisfied with Agfa Ultra 100, due to its deep and fine-grained ultraviolet blues. Oops, not available for medium format. Reala for 35mm is finer grained than for medium format, and I believe 100UC is grainier than 35mm Reala, though I have not yet confirmed it. The gray patches in 100UC's Macbeth chart were full of extraneous color splops, something I also noticed in your scans (whiter whites in Reala, primarily owing to less color splopping). > > Once the sun comes out, I'll have a chance to see what color and contrast > > looks like. The scene I shot was terribly flat with no color. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I didn't like the way 100UC handled orange on the overcast day, though > in direct sunlight orange poppies looked fine. I sort of remember light blue flowers being very tough to capture accurately on film. Did you try anything like that? Strong yellows? > > They do look close, don't they? Also, the new stuff looks good enough for > > 30 x 40s from MF negs. We'll see. I'm hoping it's a good landscape film. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > splops, something I also noticed in your scans (whiter whites in Reala, > primarily owing to less color splopping). Nice to see another negative choice at ISO 100. Perhaps it will prove good for some subjects, and not so good for others. Ciao! Gordon Moat Alliance Graphique Studio <http://www.allgstudio.com >> Here in California we have lots of color already. I took pictures of >> ROYGBV flowers on a bright sunny day, then again on an overcast day. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I sort of remember light blue flowers being very tough to capture > accurately on film. Did you try anything like that? Strong yellows? Ultra Color 100 seems quite good at capturing blue and purple flowers in both sunlight and diffuse-light. I took some ceanothus and lilac photos that came out nicely. It's in the orange-yellow continuum where 100UC failed me, perhaps because the Agfa MSC minilab still has no appropriate channel for it, perhaps because I haven't found the best Vuescan profile for it yet. If anyone has it printed by a Kodak-based lab, please inform the group what papers and/or channels work best. I have a roll of 120 Konica Impressia 50 sitting in my fridge. Anyone want to throw that into the comparison mix here? Simon. > Ultra Color 100 seems quite good at capturing blue and purple flowers > in both sunlight and diffuse-light. I took some ceanothus and lilac [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If anyone has it printed by a Kodak-based lab, please inform the group > what papers and/or channels work best. I tried that stuff, and had a horrible time getting it printed correctly, and scanning it. While the grain was incredible, it was just too much work getting the colors right. Honestly, I'll never know what the stuff actually looked like. > I have a roll of 120 Konica Impressia 50 sitting in my fridge. Anyone want > to throw that into the comparison mix here? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > If anyone has it printed by a Kodak-based lab, please inform the group > > what papers and/or channels work best. I had my roll of 100UC printed myself in our Kodak lab. I found the contrast of this film quite high, making getting predictable results difficult. I posted my results on Photo.net in the film forum if anyone takes a look. I shot my last roll today along side with 400UC, so I can directly compare how the two look against each other. 100UC is definately not very good for people pictures because of the high contrast. Also I didnt find this film to be very saturated at all compared to other print films. It looks like any Royal Gold film Ive used in the past, but maybe with higher contrast. I get more predictable results with Reala when Ive used it. > I had my roll of 100UC printed myself in our Kodak lab. I found the contrast > of this film quite high, making getting predictable results difficult. I What paper was it printed on? Nick > > I had my roll of 100UC printed myself in our Kodak lab. I found the contrast > > of this film quite high, making getting predictable results difficult. I > > What paper was it printed on? Edge Generations. Yes a high contrast paper. But I've never had an issue using it before this film. >> > I had my roll of 100UC printed myself in our Kodak lab. I found the > contrast [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Edge Generations. Yes a high contrast paper. But I've never had an issue > using it before this film. Is UC considered a pro film by Kodak? If so it would make sense that it's designed to work best with the pro papers. I wonder how it'll work with supra or the lower contrast portrait papers. Nick > Is UC considered a pro film by Kodak? If so it would make sense that it's > designed to work best with the pro papers. I wonder how it'll work with > supra or the lower contrast portrait papers. Yes 100UC is a pro film and pro papers would tone down the contrast slightly. But after reading others comments as well as seeing my own results- 100UC is a high contrast film. More so then other comparable films like this. And I wouldnt call it a bold color film either. Reds do block up however. I'm going to the Eastern Sierra in late July. Do you think UC100 will be good for all those shades of red and brown? > > Once the sun comes out, I'll have a chance to see what color and contrast > > looks like. The scene I shot was terribly flat with no color. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > splops, something I also noticed in your scans (whiter whites in Reala, > primarily owing to less color splopping). |
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