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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / May 2008Canon vs Nikon, the final word?
That's right! I know this is one of those burning issues that people just can't make up their minds on. Which camera takes better pics, the Canon A720 or the Nikon D3? Or, is there yet an unidentified contender out there that can kick both of these apertures? Send submissions to photos.digital@dudley-hanks.com I'll post the entries, without EXIF data or any other hints on my site. Then, guests can vote on their favourite via e-mail ballot. What will be the deciding factor, the camera or the photog? Good Luck, Dudley All I know is they both beat Polaroid. > That's right! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Good Luck, > Dudley  SignatureJoseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit > What will be the deciding factor, the camera or the photog? Neither; the voters will decide. >> What will be the deciding factor, the camera or the photog? > > Neither; the voters will decide. I think you've got a point, there. Grin, Dudley >That's right! > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >What will be the deciding factor, the camera or the photog? Who cares? >>That's right! >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Who cares? Enquiring minds just have to know! Grin, Dudley > That's right! > > I know this is one of those burning issues that people just can't make up > their minds on. Which camera takes better pics, the Canon A720 or the Nikon > D3? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am certain I can shoot nice photos with any camera that has a decent lens, including all the Canon and Nikon cameras. I am a Canon user, but I think what's far more important than the camera one uses is the photographer behind the camera. Learn to use the controls on whatever camera you buy and how to compose photos well and you'll be fine. Learn about the importance of lighting and how shutter speed and aperture effect photos and you'll be fine regardless of which camera you decide to buy. >> That's right! >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > lighting and how shutter speed and aperture effect photos and you'll be > fine regardless of which camera you decide to buy. A photographer after my own heart... >> That's right! >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >lighting and how shutter speed and aperture effect photos and you'll be >fine regardless of which camera you decide to buy. I agree... however the better photographers tend to be enthusiasts ( or turn pro) and end up buying better equipment. So "all the best photographers use the D3 or D300" (sorry don't know the equivalent Cannon models) Therefore many who aspire to doing better photographs will see what the great and the good do (and the kit they use) and also aspire to the D3 or D300. This is why the major DSLR companies associate with the "best" photographers. First you have to be able to see a good picture. That is the photographers skill irrespective of camera Then you have to know how to take the photograph Again that is the photographers skill largely irrespective of camera Where the camera comes in is: the better the camera/lens the more options you have for taking the photo. If I had a good 600mm lens and a D3 I could take pictures in the evening I have no hope of taking with my 18-70 and D70 It is a case of those with more art and skill can get the best results form the camera. The better the spec of the camera the more they can do. As it is I haven't used the D70 to it's fullest potential yet so whilst a D3 would make me feel better I doubt it would improve my photographs much other than the technicalities of less noise and more resolution and possibly better colour etc Signature\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ On May 16, 8:54 am, "Dudley Hanks" <photos.digi...@dudley-hanks.com> wrote: > That's right! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Good Luck, > Dudley As far as I am concerned, I believe that with any major brand that has stood the test of time (Canon and Nikon both qualify) the photographer using the camera has a far greater effect on the quality of the pictures than what brand. Also, even between models, the big variables are in automatic modes. If you use the cameras in manual mode than both brands are pretty much equivalent, and between models in each line they will be about the same in image quality. Also, the difference in image quality with various lenses, the differences are most apparent at the fastest aperture. Stop down a few stops, and most lenses these days will be about the same. >That's right! You're an idiot. There won't be a "final word" until one of the two companies has gone out of business. Probebly not then, either. >I know this is one of those burning issues that people just can't make up >their minds on. Which camera takes better pics, the Canon A720 or the Nikon >D3? You don't even know what "better" means so why are you asking? SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net >>That's right! > > You're an idiot. There won't be a "final word" until one of the two > companies has gone out of business. Probebly not then, either. Lighten up. Have you ever heard of satire? Tongue in cheek? I'm not talking about a literal comparison, just a fun little contest to test the photographer instead of the camera. Hope you'll join the fun. Dudley >just a fun little contest to > test the photographer instead of the camera. Now here's the REAL idea: a CONTEST! The rules are: you must submit 20 photos, in pairs, two of each subject, taken within 2 minutes of each other. One must be made by a Canon camera and lens, the other by a Nikon camera and lens of similar price and functionality (i.e. if one has IS the other must have VR, or both not have it, and f/numbers must match as must focual lengths and zoom ranges). The pictures must be made by the same photographer. The two are compared. And may the two systems tie! (Which, of course, they will, in fair contest.) I'm not running this contest, you understand, just suggesting it. Doug McDonald >>just a fun little contest to >> test the photographer instead of the camera. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Doug McDonald Do the tripods have to be identical as well? Grin, Dudley On 5/18/08 2:53 AM, in article WfRXj.2794$Yp.2136@edtnps92, "Dudley Hanks" <photos.digital@dudley-hanks.com> wrote: >>> That's right! >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dudley No use, Dudley. Fish-head is a pinhead socialist. They lack a sense of humor... > On 5/18/08 2:53 AM, in article WfRXj.2794$Yp.2136@edtnps92, "Dudley Hanks" > <photos.digital@dudley-hanks.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > They lack a sense of humor... I've noticed, George, and their ability to work within the broader community is questionable as well. Take Care, Dudley >On 5/18/08 2:53 AM, in article WfRXj.2794$Yp.2136@edtnps92, "Dudley Hanks" ><photos.digital@dudley-hanks.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >No use, Dudley. Fish-head is a pinhead socialist. I see that you're up to your usual standards of intellectual discourse and honesty. Maybe when you grow up you'll be able to contribute something of substance. SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net On 5/18/08 12:24 PM, in article 48306667$0$34529$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, >> On 5/18/08 2:53 AM, in article WfRXj.2794$Yp.2136@edtnps92, "Dudley Hanks" >> <photos.digital@dudley-hanks.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > and honesty. Maybe when you grow up you'll be able to contribute something > of substance. Adulthood is beyond your mental ability. Don't talk about something of which you know nothing, fool. On 5/17/08 10:13 PM, in article 482f9ef7$0$34510$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, >> That's right! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You don't even know what "better" means so why are you asking? You don't know sh.t from Shinola, Fish-head. Shutthefuckup, ass-wipe! >You don't know sh.t from Shinola, Fish-head. Shutthefuckup, ass-wipe! Another well-reasoned kerby kontribution! SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net On 5/18/08 12:25 PM, in article 48306685$0$34529$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, >> You don't know sh.t from Shinola, Fish-head. Shutthefuckup, ass-wipe! > > Another well-reasoned kerby kontribution! Another reason for you to use a spell-checker, dipshit. > On 5/17/08 10:13 PM, in article 482f9ef7$0$34510$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > You don't know sh.t from Shinola, Fish-head. Shutthefuckup, > ass-wipe! > What model is that? How many mp? > That's right! > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Good Luck, > Dudley The D3, obviously. But the A720 is no slouch for a sub $200 camera that you can put in a jacket pocket. Given the skills of most of the posters here, it's doubtful they could turn in a decent photo with either. They'd rather masturbate over their photo equipment than learn how to use it. >> That's right! >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The D3, obviously. But the A720 is no slouch for a sub $200 camera that > you can put in a jacket pocket. See http://www.photography.dudley-hanks.com/Light-And-Sight/index.html It's a hint as to the potential of the A720. Take Care, Dudley > Dudley Hanks wrote > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > it's doubtful they could turn in a decent photo with either. They'd rather > masturbate over their photo equipment than learn how to use it. I submitted a shot with my RAZR V3c 1.3 Megapixel cell phone. It's funny, the exif data always says 1/21 second shutter speed and reports no focal length, f/stop or ISO. I guess it adjusts ISO to get the exposure right. All photos also say "no flash" :-) SignaturePaul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam > I'll post the entries, without EXIF data or any other hints on my site. > Then, guests can vote on their favourite via e-mail ballot. Well... That's one way to get peoples visit at your website... Canon vs. Nikon... That's really easy to answer... Best is ???on! SignatureSomebody has to take those bad photos: http://www.petrilopia.net/ >> I'll post the entries, without EXIF data or any other hints on my site. >> Then, guests can vote on their favourite via e-mail ballot. > > Well... That's one way to get peoples visit at your website... > Canon vs. Nikon... That's really easy to answer... Best is ???on! The results have to be posted somewhere. There's no advertising on my site, and I don't charge anything for people to use it. I absorb the costs myself. Can you think of a better place? ... I thought not. The challenge stands. Take Care, Dudley |
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