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Robert - 14 May 2008 12:24 GMT

I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
take shots at all sorts of interested angles. But I would like to
buy a newone and I can't find anyone making point and shoots with
this feature, just the Canon Powershot S5 IS. Does anyone know of a
digital camera with this unusual feature?

Robert

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Jeff R. - 14 May 2008 12:31 GMT

>I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
> that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
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>
> Robert

Panasonic FZ30.
More than a simple P&S (actually its a Piece of S...) and I'm not sure if
its current counterparts have the facility anymore. Its one of the main
reasons I bought it, and the only reason I haven't flung the whole dam'
thing in the lake since.

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Jeff R.

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Paul Allen - 14 May 2008 16:58 GMT

>>I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
>> that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
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> main reasons I bought it, and the only reason I haven't flung the whole
> dam' thing in the lake since.

The FZ30 and FZ50 have an LCD that pivots from the bottom edge. The
display on the FZ50 tilts down a full 180 degrees, but both of them
are obstructed when the camera's on a tripod. The Canon pivot from the
side design is a little smarter.

I have an FZ30 and generally like it. I bought it for the lens and
easy accessibility of external controls, not for the tilt/swivel LCD.
Would you care to share what it is about yours that makes you want
to fling it in the lake?

Paul Allen

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measekite - 14 May 2008 20:54 GMT

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>> "Robert" <robertanddeanna@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> take shots at all sorts of interested angles. But I would like to buy
>>> a newone

Why do you want to buy a new one. The only thing wrong (I own one and
like it) with this camera is the lousy viewfinder.

>>> and I can't find anyone making point and shoots with this
>>> feature, just the Canon Powershot S5 IS. Does anyone know of a digital
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> Paul Allen
>

Very old technology. And somewhat noisy.

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Jeff R. - 15 May 2008 07:47 GMT

> I have an FZ30 and generally like it. I bought it for the lens and
> easy accessibility of external controls, not for the tilt/swivel LCD.
> Would you care to share what it is about yours that makes you want
> to fling it in the lake?
>
> Paul Allen

Sure.
I love the idea of feature set (all the stuff you know about) but the lens
in unforgivably soft anywhere near the tele end. The CA is apalling, and at
full tele it really just looks like someone has Vaselined the lens.

This from a "Leica" lens! (Ha!)

The IS doesn't appear to offer much assistance, but I've not verified this
objectively. It just seems that more shots than normal seem to suffer from
shake.

Auto focus is unreliable when I need it most, and manual focus is painful -
way too subjective and the viewfinder view is annoying and distracting.

Noise at most ISO's - but especially high speed - is unacceptable.

Hey! I do a lot of tele work in dimly lit surroundings (stage work) - and
all my subjects appear to be suffering the pox. The flash is too weak to
help here, and when I tried to use my SB-600 it didn't want to synch
properly with the camera.

ISTR there's more, but I haven't used it for so long I've forgotten them
(advantage of advancing years.)

The improvement I see when I use my modest Nikon d50 with kit lenses is
overwhelming. Orders of magnitude better. The FZ is *OK* (just) if
conditions are perfect, but I never take shots in perfect conditions. (Who
does?)

It's one saving grace is that I now have a "loaner" camera for my mooching
friends. It looks impressive, I make all the right noises, and yet I don't
give a rat's if they drop it. :-)

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Jeff R.

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bugbear - 14 May 2008 13:49 GMT

> I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
> that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
> take shots at all sorts of interested angles. But I would like to
> buy a newone and I can't find anyone making point and shoots with
> this feature, just the Canon Powershot S5 IS. Does anyone know of a
> digital camera with this unusual feature?

Gone off Canon?

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2007_reviews/canon_a650.html

(tippety tap google)

Bloody hell - the S5 was only announced
7/19/2007; why do you want a new(er) camera?

BugBear

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dt - 14 May 2008 18:49 GMT

>> I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
>> that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
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> Bloody hell - the S5 was only announced
> 7/19/2007; why do you want a new(er) camera?

Good question. But if he wants to sell me that old, rotten, outdated
S5, I could make a small offer, perhaps. ;-)

DT

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Allen - 14 May 2008 20:05 GMT

>>> I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
>>> that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
>>> take shots at all sorts of interested angles. But I would like to
>>> buy a newone and I can't find anyone making point and shoots with
>>> this feature, just the Canon Powershot S5 IS. Does anyone know of a
>>> digital camera with this unusual feature?

Go to a good retail camera site such as B&H (bhphotovideo.com) and look
over the cameras that look interesting to you. The descriptions of the
cameras will include this feature if it is there; Canon calls it
Vari-angle, Fuji says "tiltable", etc.
Allen

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irwell - 14 May 2008 15:47 GMT

>I have been using the Canon Powershot S5 IS which has a view finder
>that flips our and swivels at any angle. It is great, enabling me to
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>
>Robert

The Nikon Coolpix S10 has a rotating type of body that may be
suitable.

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