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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / May 2008The spam flood
I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. I know on one of my groups someone took action somehow to convert all of those spam message titles to the word "spam", so it may be that server administrators on host servers may have something to do with overcoming the flood. Don't know why it is continuing on rpd, but it would be nice if this group somehow follows what is happening on rest of Usenet. >I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four > newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would be nice if this group somehow follows what is happening on rest > of Usenet. I keep my finger on the "Ctrl" key and click on the few offenders that remain that have escaped my filter in Outlook Express. To add blocking words to OE, go to "Tools", "Message Rules", "News...", then click the box for "New news rules #1", and click in the area below that, which brings up a box where you can enter one word or phrase at a time (clicking on "OK" afterward - but the box remains so you can add another word). So far, what is in the box reads, "Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the Subject line contains 'panties' or 'armani' or 'rolex' or 'china' or 'boots' or 'fashion' or 'wholesale' or 'gucci' or 'handbag' or 'watches' or 'replica' or 'shoes' or 'prada' or 'nike' or 'sneakers' or 'lesbian' or 'jesus' or 'allah' or 'crotch' or 'sexy' or 'porn' or 'viagra' or 'juicy' or ' velour' or 'tracksuit' or 'exclusive' or 'cock' or 'fake' or 'nokia' or 'earn' or 'federal' or 'hi' or 'shopping' or 'fortune' or 'gerard' or 'gym' or 'female' or 'luxury' or 'clothes' or 'watch' or 'money' or 'formal' or 'pockets' or 'polos' or 'jeans' or 'swimwear' or 'cialis' or 'make millions' or 'secution' or 'capgun' or 'klein' or 'makes millions' or 'larose' or 'chanel' or 'breitling' or 'e-cigarette' or 'online job' or 'jobs posted' or 'www.vacancies4all.com' or 'home business' or 'shemale' or 'f.cking' or 'hi i am' or 'juicy couture' or 'an cheap' or 'archive' or 'paypal accept' or 'jordans' or 'top-saler' or 'ed-hardy' or 'discount' or 'ladies watch' or 'gents watch' or 'mens watch' or 'dear' or 'friend' or 'hot' or 'kisses' or 'actress' or 'premodded' or 'bollywood' or 'workwear' or 'safety gear' or 'temperature' or 'business uniform' or 'free games' or 'glickman' or 'tessera' or '50,000' or 'ONE CALL AWAY' or 'nymphs' or 'islam' or 'paypal' or 'air max' or 'pregnancy' or 'Quran' or 'mortgage' or 'adult DVDs' or 'adult videos' or 'achat' or 'acheter' or 'romance' or 'god' or 'hello' Delete it" Do not add the "or" or anything else but the specific word or words you want to block - the program adds the rest. --David Ruether > Where the Subject line contains 'panties' or 'armani' or 'rolex' or 'china' > or 'boots' or 'fashion' or 'wholesale' or 'gucci' or 'handbag' or 'watches' [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > 'pregnancy' or 'Quran' or 'mortgage' or 'adult DVDs' or 'adult videos' > or 'achat' or 'acheter' or 'romance' or 'god' or 'hello' Or one could use: Message-ID contains "googlegroups" (in whatever sytax the reader uses)  SignatureBlinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org NEW --> Now evaluating a GG-free news feed: http://usenet4all.se >>I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > at a time (clicking on "OK" afterward - but the box remains so you > can add another word). So far, what is in the box reads, It appears that the original poster is using Google Groups to access rec.photo.digital. Google Groups only provides a crude browser interface which acts as a gateway to the actual USENET groups. There are no provisions to filter anything when you use Google's browser interface. Until he starts using a real news reading client, there is nothing he can do to stop the spam. What is ironic is that just about all the spam we see here comes from Google Groups. It's no wonder that so many RPD subscribers filter out all the posts originating from Google. >>> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > from Google Groups. It's no wonder that so many RPD subscribers > filter out all the posts originating from Google. What's ironic is someone posting from gmail.com complaining about spam. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > Until he starts using a real news reading client, there is nothing > he can do to stop the spam. > > What is ironic is that just about all the spam we see here comes > from Google Groups. It's no wonder that so many RPD subscribers > filter out all the posts originating from Google. MY ISP no longer supports Usenet well, and I refuse to pay extra for a third party news server. I tried a couple of free ones and they were terrible! But the point of my original post is that rpd is the ONLY one left getting this spam. Why is that? Since I use the google interface for ALL of my groups, that cannot be the reason I get it in rpd and not the other groups. In article <3640df54-a8fd-4372-970c- 1ca39d687eda@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Don Stauffer in Minnesota says... > MY ISP no longer supports Usenet well, and I refuse to pay extra for a > third party news server. I tried a couple of free ones and they were > terrible! Which ones did you try? SignatureAlfred Molon ------------------------------ Olympus 50X0, 8080, E3X0, E4X0, E5X0 and E3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site >I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four > newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would be nice if this group somehow follows what is happening on rest > of Usenet. Ooops, that first paragraph in my post above should have been: "I keep my finger on the "Ctrl" key and click on the few offenders that remain that have escaped my filter in Outlook Express, then hit the "Delete" key (on a PC). To add blocking words to OE, go to "Tools", "Message Rules", "News...", then click the box for "New news rules #1", and click in the area below that, which brings up a box where you can enter one word or phrase at a time (clicking on "OK" afterward - but the box remains so you can add another word). So far, what is in the box reads," --DR >>I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > So far, what is in the box reads," > --DR If you use a filter like News Proxy and have it remove just the Google Group posts, you will eliminate 99.9% of all of the crud. It's so easy. Bob Signature== NOTE: I automatically delete all Google Group posts due to uncontrolled SPAM == >>>I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > If you use a filter like News Proxy and have it remove just the Google Group And, of course, many news clients can filter GG posts natively, without the need to use auxiliary software. > posts, you will eliminate 99.9% of all of the crud. It's so easy. And you don't have to keep adding subject keywords. :) SignatureBlinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org NEW --> Now evaluating a GG-free news feed: http://usenet4all.se Is there a good clear help file or FAQ or tutorial on NewsProxy somewhere? Gordo > If you use a filter like News Proxy and have it remove just the Google > Group posts, you will eliminate 99.9% of all of the crud. It's so easy. > > Bob > Is there a good clear help file or FAQ or tutorial on NewsProxy somewhere? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Bob News Proxy started out as NFILTER. It's not officially supported anymore (afaik), but it sure works well. The key thing to realize is that you have to change your news client's 'server name' to "localhost", and then tell NewsProxy what the true server's name is. This is what puts NewsProxy in the path of all messages and allows it to do its filtering. The next thing is to create the nfilter.dat file. Make sure you don't have any blank lines in it or it will complain. http://www.nfilter.org/ http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Bob Signature== NOTE: I automatically delete all Google Group posts due to uncontrolled SPAM == >> Is there a good clear help file or FAQ or tutorial on NewsProxy somewhere? >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Short story: Download & install it (directly under C: fixed an issue for me), set: edit > configuration > network to your newserver (such as news.sf.sbcglobal.net) then set your news reader's (OE or thunderbird, etc) server to localhost then: edit > filters and paste this one line at the top (delete the rest of the file's contents if you wish): * drop Message-ID:*googlegroups* You can play around more but that's the basic setup. SignaturePaul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam > Is there a good clear help file or FAQ or tutorial on NewsProxy somewhere? Besides the suggestions given, for individual questions check into news.software.readers for assistance. Mention my name. SignatureBlinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org NEW --> Now evaluating a GG-free news feed: http://usenet4all.se > I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four > newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would be nice if this group somehow follows what is happening on rest > of Usenet. This subject has been covered several times lately. If you go to Google Groups (unfortunately, one of the worst offenders) you can see probably hundreds of suggestions on the subject. For starters, though, if you will create filters for senders whose addresses contain gmail, google, 126.com, 163.com or .cn, you will reduce the number greatly. I don't know what news reader you use, but in Thunderbird I put the ones going through Google in the filters for each individual group (in some groups, some valuable contributors use it) but I put 126, 163 and cn in the filter for the entire news system. Good luck! Allen >> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> would be nice if this group somehow follows what is happening on rest >> of Usenet. Hmmm... Don apparently posts through Google Groups. I'm seeing replies to his thread, but nothing from him. Don, you need to find a better Usenet feed. I'm not going to turn off my block on GG postings. I'm seeing less than one spam message per week since I started filtering messages posted from Google Groups. > This subject has been covered several times lately. If you go to Google > Groups (unfortunately, one of the worst offenders) you can see probably > hundreds of suggestions on the subject. For starters, though, if you > will create filters for senders whose addresses contain gmail, google, > 126.com, 163.googlegroupscom or .cn, you will reduce the number greatly. You can reduce the number darn close to zero by filtering out articles with "googlegroups" in the Message-ID header. Filtering on sender address is much less effective. Yes, some postings from well-meaning folk get blocked. Life is hard. I'm not willing to wade through ten spam messages per interesting one. Absent a more nuanced tool, my simple block stays up. Posters who are likely to have interesting things to say will most likely find an honorable Usenet server to post through. > I don't > know what news reader you use, but in Thunderbird I put the ones going > through Google in the filters for each individual group (in some groups, > some valuable contributors use it) but I put 126, 163 and cn in the > filter for the entire news system. Good luck! Allen Thunderbird can't filter on Message-ID, so it's not much use for reading a GG spam infested newsgroup. Paul Allen >>> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > seeing less than one spam message per week since I started filtering > messages posted from Google Groups. True. There isn't a whole lot of good content missed. If you want, it is possible to set it up so GG posts just get flagged in newsproxy then are marked as read in thunderbird. If nobody replies, you don't see single spams in 'threads with unread messages' view. nfilter.dat : * flag: From:*my-gg-friend-01@gmail.com* * flag: From:*my-gg-friend-02@gmail.com* * flag:|GG| Message-ID:*googlegroups* The above filters mark the Subject so it begins with |GG| (then use thunderbird to filter on the subject & mark it as read). The my-gg-friend email gets the subject flagged with an empty string (nothing happens) & escapes the kill file. Once a match is made, it stops executing on that message. SignaturePaul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com [almost] all google groups messages filtered due to spam >>>> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >>>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > (nothing happens) & escapes the kill file. Once a match is made, it > stops executing on that message. What's the advantage there, having newsproxy alter the Subject header and then having TB hide the post -- over simply making that third rule a GG *kill* that never even has to go to TB? SignatureBlinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org NEW --> Now evaluating a GG-free news feed: http://usenet4all.se > >>>> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four > >>>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > then having TB hide the post -- over simply making that third rule a GG > *kill* that never even has to go to TB? IIRC, Paul isn't outright kill-filing all posts from GG. So my best guess would be that he is using the above to "white-list" those posters (using GG) that make valid contributions to the newsgroups. FWIW, I see all the spam posted (color highlighted) from GG... Yes, I could just kill it based on the Message ID line, which would make my filter file much smaller. RPD does tend to get more spam than some of the other photo groups I read. - JT SignatureSee Header for Improving Usenet's Signal-To-Noise Ratio "The pendulum of the mind oscillates between sense and nonsense, not between right and wrong." - Carl Jung >>>>>> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >>>>>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > guess would be that he is using the above to "white-list" those posters > (using GG) that make valid contributions to the newsgroups. In theory yes though my white list is awfully short in practice so far. The main advantage is I *can* see GG posts in a thread which sometimes helps make sense of a thread, or at least shows which threads originate from GG messages so I can quickly evaluate whether to ignore the thread. Sometimes a GG poster will reply to me and I would have only seen that if someone else replies to them, now I can read the original message. I will generally miss them, but they are there if it matters. > FWIW, I see all the spam posted (color highlighted) from GG... Yes, I > could just kill it based on the Message ID line, which would make my > filter file much smaller. RPD does tend to get more spam than some of > the other photo groups I read. > > - JT SignaturePaul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam > > IIRC, Paul isn't outright kill-filing all posts > > from GG. So my best guess would be that he is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In theory yes though my white list is awfully > short in practice so far. In any event, the fact that you are making an effort to Whitelist is nevertheless appreciated. -hh (via GG) >> >>>> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four >> >>>> newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > guess would be that he is using the above to "white-list" those posters > (using GG) that make valid contributions to the newsgroups. I understand his whitelist lines. I was only asking about the third line in his ruleset. Why handle the nonwhitelist GG posts twice -- once in newsproxy and again in TB? SignatureBlinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org NEW --> Now evaluating a GG-free news feed: http://usenet4all.se > Don Stauffer in Minnesota wrote:> I notice the spam flood has virtually disappeared from the other four > > newsgroups I subscribe to. It only seems to continue on rpd. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > filter for the entire news system. Good luck! > Allen But why do I not need to do any of this for the other four newsgroups I subscribe to? > But why do I not need to do any of this for the other four newsgroups > I subscribe to? Some groups just happen to attract more spam than others. This group attracts a huge amount from China compared to most of the other groups I follow, but other groups attract other sorts. For total number and percentage of spam of all types, this one is by far the leader. The other groups I follow are in classical music, genealogy and WinXP, all of which attract some spam, but not the same type or in comparable numbers as this one. Perhaps somewhere there is an psychologist who deals in abnormal behavior can explain it. The most disquieting aspect to me is that they must be attracting gullible customers or they wouldn't be doing it. One other note about rpd--it is also one of the leaders in trolls (the co-leader is rec.music.opera); my killfile is chock full of them. Allen > > But why do I not need to do any of this for the other four newsgroups > > I subscribe to? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > chock full of them. > Allen No, these groups DID have the large amount of spam. But then it stopped. In one group someone was able to do something that labeled all those messages (the ones with the very long subject lines) as simply SPAM in the subject line. Made it very easy to scroll through. Then, the posts simply stopped. That happened in three other groups too (the messages just stopped). In article <6b825564-8c9f-4e5a-8506-20f4e421d804@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > > Don Stauffer in Minnesota wrote:> I notice the spam flood has virtually > > disappeared from the other four [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > But why do I not need to do any of this for the other four newsgroups > I subscribe to? All the <good> groups finally attract spammers because many people read and post meaning the con artists have a broad audience and there will always be one or two innocents who get taken in. A few years ago soc.culture.british was an excellent group for banter between expat Brits, now it's a spam trap for Muslim/Jew/Indian/Pakistani haters to vent their nastiness. I filtered a lot for a while and eventually gave up as I was spending more time filtering than actually searching for <real> posts. Perhaps another group (rec.photos.digital or rec.photo.digi???) may be necessary in future and leave these s***heads to post to themselves > I filtered a lot for a while and eventually gave > up as I was spending more time filtering than actually searching for > <real> posts. Stewy, please don't respond to the spam messages! You just now dredged up a couple google spams I had filtered. Now I've got you filtered :-) |
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