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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / May 2008World's first photograph?
Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/arts/design/17phot.html?_r=1&oref=slogin  SignatureJohn Rethorst jrethorst at post dot com >Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. > >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/arts/design/17phot.html?_r=1&oref=slogin BZZZZZZZT!!!!! Wrong. Niecephore Nipce took the first photograph, of a church steeple from his rooming house window. >> Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Wrong. Niecephore Nipce took the first photograph, of a church > steeple from his rooming house window. You mean the one taken in 1826? Having not read the Times article, you can be excused for not knowing that they think the photo in question may date to the 1790s. Please. Read before you comment! >>> Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Please. Read before you comment! Well that would take all the fun out of it, but a PHOTOGRAM is not the same as a PHOTOGRAPH. So I maintain, that Niecephore Nipce took the first PHOTOGRAPH with lens and shutter. Thank You. You can return to the dinner table now. Lg On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, >> Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Wrong. Niecephore Nipce took the first photograph, of a church > steeple from his rooming house window. The way you talk, you probably processed it for him. >On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >The way you talk, you probably processed it for him. Reference Beaumont Newhall. It was required reading back in college days. I am an historian, technician, artist, and Man for all Seasons, wrapped up into one >tight< package. My entire Life has been in photography, and I am 63 years old. So...don't you think I should know something about it by now? Lg >> On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > photography, and I am 63 years old. So...don't you think I should > know something about it by now? And yet... >>> On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >And yet... And yet what. I've worked for the biggest companies on the Planet, not just the biggest but the BEST. I left my mark. And you? What the hell have you done with your life. Matsushita/Panasonic/KME-Create/factory automation, senior engineering technician Agfa lab equipment senior engineering technician Television engineer/student for Rochester Insitute of Technology Guardian Photo Division (the same Guardian Inc. that makes auto glass) Studied at R.I.T., Rhode Island School of Design, have been Advanced Class Ham Radio license holder (can't do that anymore because of heart implant).... Studied under the likes of Harry Callahan, worked in photojournalism, studio photography, commercial (advertising) photography, Industrial photography, owned my own company. And you? WTF have you done? What the hell do you mean by "And yet" Lg |>>> On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, |>>> |>>>>> Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/arts/design/17phot.html?_r=1&oref=slogin |>>>> BZZZZZZZT!!!!! |>>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] | | Lg Amazing. All this wealth of experience and knowledge and I have never heard of you. Me, the inventor of so many things photographic. Pioneer of masked printing on Cibachrome. Builder of many houses, owner of a wide format print centre and accomplished wedding photographer, qualified as a Tradesman Photographer in 1962. Publisher of numerous magazines. The present being a "planning wedding" publications. In my spare time, I run a wedding salon and portrait studio and yet... Your insignificance to everything I have ever done or heard about during this near 50 year long career of mine in photography is absolutely mind boggling. How could you have escaped my attention for so long? I was once a photo printing technician at Kodak Australia when they thought so little of their staff they never bothered to hand our dark glasses to the men and women who pioneered production film development in huge tanks of chemicals, standing in pitch black rooms un spooling film for 4 hours at a time. What have I missed here? Is it possible there may be another old fart in the universe still plying their trade? God man... Give me a call. It's bloody lonely out here in the cold with no one but a bunch of well educated, lateral thinking kids who can't spell and think speed graphic is some sort of new snorting drug. Ha,ha,ha... God I love braggart! - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > >Ha,ha,ha... God I love braggart! I'm still waiting...for Cynicor to answer the question. And you? Bragging rights? Never heard of you. I forgot to mention I was ALSO a cinematographer for Nalco Chemical Company. Ever shot a production with a Arriflex? I didn't think so. I suppose you never heard of them either. f.cking nitwit. Without people like MYSELF behind the scenes, working feverishly to keep your ships from sinking, you could never have achieved what you claim. EVER. I'm know around the USA by NAME. I'm know around THE WORLD by name. By *important people,* not jerks like you. My credentials will get me into the CEO'S office of any MAJOR corporation on the planet you can think of. You? Maybe they'll let you into McDonald's tomorrow morning for your Egg McMuffin. Lg On 4/18/08 10:12 PM, in article mhoi04lj58i65pquh8nm5an0fcu6q3c7i2@4ax.com, >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > production with a Arriflex? I didn't think so. I suppose you never > heard of them either. You most likely think Nagra is a race. > On 4/18/08 10:12 PM, in article mhoi04lj58i65pquh8nm5an0fcu6q3c7i2@4ax.com, <heavily edited for brevity> > > I'm still waiting...for Cynicor to answer the question. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > You most likely think Nagra is a race. Hello, George: Why, of course, it's a race! Except, I just wanna know one thing: Is it NASCAR, USAC or Formula One? <g> Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> >> You most likely think Nagra is a race. > > Hello, George: > > Why, of course, it's a race! Except, I just wanna know one thing: Is it > NASCAR, USAC or Formula One? <g> Dunno, unless it's the one Danica just won. Yeah. That's the ticket! > >> You most likely think Nagra is a race. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Dunno, unless it's the one Danica just won. Yeah. That's the > ticket! Hello, ASAAR: Sorry, man, but "powder puff derbies" simply don't count. What's next...the "Playtex 500," perhaps? :-P Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> >> Dunno, unless it's the one Danica just won. Yeah. That's the >> ticket! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sorry, man, but "powder puff derbies" simply don't count. What's next...the > "Playtex 500," perhaps? :-P That's a real stretch . . . > >> Dunno, unless it's the one Danica just won. Yeah. That's the > >> ticket! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That's a real stretch . . . Hello, ASAAR: Ha! I had a feeling that you'd write something obvious, like that (which is why I'd refrained from using, "Kotex 500"). Kotex could've implied a "bloody" crash, if you know what I mean? With Playtex, on the other hand, the cars would've been merely trying to "girdle" the race track! <g> Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> >>>> Dunno, unless it's the one Danica just won. Yeah. That's the >>>> ticket! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Cordially, > John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> Anybody else here old enough to remember when Kotex and Modess (as far as I know, the only products of the sort back then) were wrapped in plain brown paper for display in stores? No indication on the packages or on the shelf price tags at all. For several years I wondered what they were. Times have changed somewhat--I wouldn't be surprised to see ads on TV showing just how to apply or insert them. Allen <edited for brevity> > > Kotex could've implied a "bloody" crash, if you know what I mean? With Playtex, > > on the other hand, the cars would've been merely trying to "girdle" the race [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ads on TV showing just how to apply or insert them. > Allen Hello, Allen: Well, as a child, I once saw a used sanitary napkin, floating in the toilet; a rather traumatizing experience, to be sure. ;-) Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> |>>> "Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote: |>>> >Amazing. >All this wealth of experience and knowledge and I have never heard of you. >Me, the inventor of so many things photographic. Damn. I've never heard of either one of you. It does seem that it would take a wide-angle lens to capture Mr Glickman's ego, though. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida | |>>> "Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote: | |>>> |> Amazing. |> All this wealth of experience and knowledge and I have never heard of you. |> Me, the inventor of so many things photographic. | | Damn. I've never heard of either one of you. | | It does seem that it would take a wide-angle lens to capture Mr | Glickman's ego, though. Would that be on an Ariflex or a one of those new fangled wooden cameras? The ari had some unique traits that made using wide lenses a bit of a task. I think they managed to solve the issue eventually. It was called the "Clickman solution". Lean forward so your shoes didn't get in the scene. Revolutionary for the time but you get that when you have a wide ego and someone trying to get into the narro doorway of the CEO's office. - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >The ari had some unique traits that made using wide lenses a bit of a >task. I think they managed to solve the issue eventually. You *think* but haven't really, a *clue* >It was called the "Clickman solution". Lean forward so your shoes didn't >get in the scene. >Revolutionary for the time but you get that when you have a wide ego and >someone trying to get into the narro doorway of the CEO's office. Wedding photographer. FORMULA MAN. Great claim to fame. f.ck you a.sholes. I've been admonished to not throw pearls to swine. Perhaps it is time to heed the advice. Lg : >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] : a.sholes. I've been admonished to not throw pearls to swine. Perhaps : it is time to heed the advice. Who told you that? Your headshrinker? Bob | : >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- | : >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] | | Bob Is he seeing one of those too? - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. >|>>> "Lawrence Glickman" <Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote: >|>>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Damn. I've never heard of either one of you. Exactly. >It does seem that it would take a wide-angle lens to capture Mr >Glickman's ego, though. I've earned my stripes. (Hash marks to you Navy types) Film runs in my family. My BIL produced "The Deep" starring Jaqueline Bisset. You watched his name scroll by at the end of the movie, or you didn't. He now has his own TV show...do you know who he is? He makes more money in a day, then all of you put together make in a week. Do you know HIS name? He is a multi-multi millionaire in Hollywood, and if I told you his name you would say "who the f.ck is he"? I have a newphew on Wall Street, who can buy the town you live in. Have you ever heard of him? If I told you his name, would you recognize it? I don't think so. And so it goes. Nobody can take away what I have EARNED. Nobody can undo what I have DONE. They can, however, keep their heads buried in the darkness of their own ignorance, until their time on earth is up. I won't be dealing with you FUCKSTICKS for a while. I need a vacation from you HEROES OF PHOTOGRAPHY, who I've never heard of, and nobody else has either. For the students here, I'm available through e-mail. Lg <edited for brevity> > I've earned my stripes. (Hash marks to you Navy types) Hello, Lawrence: Are you a corporal, yet? <g> > Film runs in my family. Really? Cowards run, in mine! :-P > My BIL produced "The Deep" starring Jaqueline Bisset. You watched > his name scroll by at the end of the movie, or you didn't. He now [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Do you know HIS name? He is a multi-multi millionaire in Hollywood, > and if I told you his name you would say "who the f.ck is he"? Actually, the way I see it, "The Deep" (1977) starred Nick Nolte -- who's an Omaha native, such as yours truly. (But, I never literally saw the motion picture in question. <g>) > I have a newphew on Wall Street, who can buy the town you live in. > Have you ever heard of him? If I told you his name, would you > recognize it? I don't think so. Hey, was this another of your illustrious kin, below? Wikipedia - Marty Glickman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Glickman> "Martin 'Marty' Glickman (August 14, 1917 - January 3, 2001) was a Jewish American track and field athlete and sports announcer, born in The Bronx, New York." Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> >>> Reference Beaumont Newhall. It was required reading back in college >>> days. I am an historian, technician, artist, and Man for all Seasons, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > And you? WTF have you done? What the hell do you mean by "And yet" Sorry, hit send too quickly. And yet...I can get you to go off on a 10 minute jag just by posting two words. :D On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" <j.t..ru.p.in@sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote: >>>> Reference Beaumont Newhall. It was required reading back in college >>>> days. I am an historian, technician, artist, and Man for all Seasons, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > And yet...I can get you to go off on a 10 minute jag just by posting two > words. :D Things are slow in his world. He gets off by being an a.shole - much like masturbation to most folk. >On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article >a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Things are slow in his world. He gets off by being an a.shole - much like >masturbation to most folk. Someone asked for my CV (Curriculum Vitae), and I posted it. In your peanut-sized brain, this translates into a sexual act. My advice is to discuss your problem with a Mental Health Professional before it gets any worse. Lg >> On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article >> a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Someone asked for my CV (Curriculum Vitae), and I posted it. Who did? >>> On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article >>> a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >Who did? You did. With your *and yet...* But the cats are out of the bag, the horses have left the barn, the water is over the damn, the spilt milk is on the floor. So...can we move on now? Can't we all just...get along? Lg On 4/19/08 10:32 AM, in article j14k049opikcud11b06p3er3735b3ot54n@4ax.com, >>>> On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article >>>> a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Lg An yet... And yet... And yet... YOU keep hangin' on. What a maroon! >On 4/19/08 10:32 AM, in article j14k049opikcud11b06p3er3735b3ot54n@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > >YOU keep hangin' on. What a maroon! Blow it our your a.s On 4/20/08 10:48 AM, in article nepm045fm96oarvjfjbq8p3p6rqp5d3uld@4ax.com, >> On 4/19/08 10:32 AM, in article j14k049opikcud11b06p3er3735b3ot54n@4ax.com, >> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Blow it our your a.s How original! Got any more gems? Here ya go... You are nothing more than the appalling squandering of oxygen and water required to keep you from being maggot meat, you dungaree-sporting dufus. Do yourself and everyone else a favor: jump into a snake pit and play Twister with the rattlesnakes, you sufferer of cerebral kaput syndrome. Have a nice day... On 4/19/08 9:43 AM, in article o61k04haq3k5ln3v5d5dasqgjpinoifsh2@4ax.com, >> On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article >> a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Lg My advice to you is to pull your head out of your a.s, you angry old bastard. >On 4/19/08 9:43 AM, in article o61k04haq3k5ln3v5d5dasqgjpinoifsh2@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >My advice to you is to pull your head out of your a.s, you angry old >bastard. f.ck You On 4/20/08 10:48 AM, in article idpm04lia79em1ob82fi374v5n3mp8upsa@4ax.com, >> On 4/19/08 9:43 AM, in article o61k04haq3k5ln3v5d5dasqgjpinoifsh2@4ax.com, >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > f.ck You Diitos. AND the a.s you rode in. >My advice to you is to pull your head out of your a.s, you angry old >bastard. Your usually insightful and amusing comments, ker? Way to go. Keep up the good work. After all, why mess with a winning formula? SignatureRay Fischer rfischer@sonic.net On 4/20/08 1:32 PM, in article 480b8c47$0$34497$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, >> My advice to you is to pull your head out of your a.s, you angry old >> bastard. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Way to go. Keep up the good work. After all, why mess with a winning > formula? Get back to your lefty loony bin, Fish-breath: There is a conspiracy somewhere begging your ranting. : >On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article : >a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] : : Someone asked for my CV (Curriculum Vitae), and I posted it. With at least one major omission. You asserted that you "studied at" R.I.T. and RISD, but you neglected to mention the degrees you must have had time to earn at those august institutions. Someone of your stellar intellect would certainly not have left without obtaining that recognition of his accomplishments. : In your peanut-sized brain, this translates into a sexual act. : : My advice is to discuss your problem with a Mental Health Professional : before it gets any worse. Strangely enough, it had crossed my mind to offer you that same suggestion. But I concluded that you were just playing out a joke. BTW, what are you still doing here? I thought you were bailing on us "fucksticks". Bob >: >On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article >: >a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > >Bob Jesus, you are a pile of sick bastards if I ever came across one. Next you want my Social Security number and Credit Card information. Then my Birth Certificate and Passport information. Take a swim in gasoline and go light a cigar. Crazy bastards most of you. Sick mother f.ckers. Demented. Go to hell, you already have too much personal information. I made the mistake of thinking I was dealing with colleagues here. My biggest mistake in a long time. You're just a pile of fruitcakes who had some money and bought some camera equipment. That's about IT. No further qualifications at any level, that I've seen. Lg : >: >On 4/19/08 5:45 AM, in article : >: >a9udnWWlPvD_UJTVnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@speakeasy.net, "Cynicor" [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] : : Take a swim in gasoline and go light a cigar. Does that mean that you didn't graduate from those schools? : Crazy bastards most of you. Sick mother f.ckers. Demented. : [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : camera equipment. That's about IT. No further qualifications at any : level, that I've seen. As it happens, I don't recall seeing any of YOUR work. If you're good enough to sneer at us and call us names, you'll surely be proud to show it to us. Would you care to provide a link? Bob >>>> On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Lg But you seem to have missed any education at all in the humanities. I don't see any reason to continue seeing posts from you, egomaniac. Allen >>>>> On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >don't see any reason to continue seeing posts from you, egomaniac. >Allen Egomainiac. I was asked for credentials, and posted my CV. To you, this is too much to take in, since you've never achieved 3% of what I have. So now in your fit of jealousy, you attack me by calling me an egomaniac. You're another reason I feel like I'm in a stinking bar surrounded by drunken sailors. I simply picked the wrong restaurant for lunch, evidently. Lg On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:46:36 -0500, Lawrence (he's baa...aack) Glickman wrote: > You're another reason I feel like I'm in a stinking bar surrounded by > drunken sailors. I simply picked the wrong restaurant for lunch, > evidently. Evidently. I'd recommend the outhouse across the road, but as it's hosed down monthly, it may be just a tad too elegant for your lowbrow taste, Biddy. >On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:46:36 -0500, Lawrence (he's baa...aack) >Glickman wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >it's hosed down monthly, it may be just a tad too elegant for your >lowbrow taste, Biddy. Go back to your felching, bath house boy, and leave the n/g to the adults. Lg On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, >>>>>> On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article >>>>>> 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > drunken sailors. I simply picked the wrong restaurant for lunch, > evidently. Don't let the screen door hit you in the a.s. Goo-bye! >On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> >Don't let the screen door hit you in the a.s. Goo-bye! Eat sh.t and Die >> On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, >> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Eat sh.t and Die Goodbye Lawrence. >>> On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, >>> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >Goodbye Lawrence. ta ta...send a postcard from wherever you're going, eh? And don't forget to put the right postage on it. Lg On 4/20/08 11:32 AM, in article 8vrm045sht9i8af31ju41bjub1fkb8hmsm@4ax.com, >>>> On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Lg Where's Ainsworth when you need him? On 4/20/08 11:32 AM, in article 8vrm045sht9i8af31ju41bjub1fkb8hmsm@4ax.com, >>>> On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Lg This explains a lot about you and your generally shitty immature approach to life: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I believe it. My 46 year old friend died because he neglected his strict Type 2 diabetes protocol, which resulted in his FATAL MI. Here is Today's Headlines about that very subject: http://tinyurl.com/auh78 In my case, I'm medicated for Panic Disorder DSM IIIR 300.01 which produces VTach and arrhythmias. Inverted T wave is present, along with PVC salvos. CAD. Angina. I use nitroglycerin for vasodilation, blood thinning chemicals, beta blockers, have hyperlipidimia so am taking heavy doses of statins, and so on and so forth, fall asleep just scratching the surface. Renal insufficiency forcing high creatinin level ( danger zone ). Am I gonna die? Maybe, but not today ( I hope ). And then I will come back to tell everyone there is no such thing as sex after death, but that won't bother me because I'm not getting any now and I'm presently diagnosed as alive ;-| IOW, dead, alive, vegetative, no difference noticed on this end. The last time I saw my pecker IIRC, was sometime between 1995 and 1997. I've been thinking of issuing an Amber Alert. Lg ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Explains a lot. "Nuff said... | On 4/20/08 11:32 AM, in article 8vrm045sht9i8af31ju41bjub1fkb8hmsm@4ax.com, | [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] |>>>>>>>>>>> |>>>>>>>>>>>> Or "photogram" as they called it. Interesting. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/arts/design/17phot.html?_r=1&oref |>>>>>>>>>>>> =slo |>>>>>>>>>>>> gin [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] | | "Nuff said... Where the hell did you did that up George? This reads like an autopsy of a dead person rather than a diagnosis of one still living. - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. On 4/20/08 2:49 PM, in article fug6j4$smm$1@registered.motzarella.org, > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > Where the hell did you did that up George? This reads like an autopsy of > a dead person rather than a diagnosis of one still living. Google advanced search: http://preview.tinyurl.com/59w4jr Like I said, it explains a lot about Lg... : On 4/20/08 2:49 PM, in article fug6j4$smm$1@registered.motzarella.org, : [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] : : Like I said, it explains a lot about Lg... I suppose we should give him a pass and ignore his rants. I suppose I might be as obnoxious as Larry is if I had all that wrong with me. Hell, maybe I am anyway. Bob > : Like I said, it explains a lot about Lg... > > I suppose we should give him a pass and ignore his rants. I suppose > I might be as obnoxious as Larry is if I had all that wrong with me. If what he wrote is actually true. His language, msg. style and contrived egomania are remarkably similar to those of a troll that played in this newsgroup last year. (Hint: that one claimed to have taken many award winning photographs, but would rather have them destroyed than let them be seen by others.) The misc.survivalism thread archived in GG may just be demonstrating another of his bizarre, antisocial personas. > > : Like I said, it explains a lot about Lg... > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > thread archived in GG may just be demonstrating another of his > bizarre, antisocial personas. Hello, ASAAR: That same thought had briefly crossed my mind, also. Although (unlike Lawrence Glickman), the "nym shifter" in question was both fanatically pro-P&S and virulently anti-DSLR. Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> > That same thought had briefly crossed my mind, also. Although (unlike > Lawrence Glickman), the "nym shifter" in question was both fanatically > pro-P&S and virulently anti-DSLR. I noticed that too, as well as that LG has been much better behaved in some other threads. But the fanaticism was almost certainly feigned for effect, and probably so boring and required so much effort that if the "nym shifter" returned, it would probably want to adopt a less strenuous guise. Or not. Maybe he'll return some day as a Kodak fanatic! :) BTW, this morning I stumbled across my folk's old Bell & Howell 8mm camera. Didn't use Li-Ion, NiMH or even alkalines. Maybe some day there'll be a digital camera that also uses a windup key. There's a rumor going around that Sigma's trying to acquire BayGen. > BTW, this morning I stumbled across my folk's old Bell & Howell > 8mm camera. Didn't use Li-Ion, NiMH or even alkalines. Maybe some > day there'll be a digital camera that also uses a windup key. > There's a rumor going around that Sigma's trying to acquire BayGen. I remember clockwork cine cameras - mine was a Russian-made Zorky, I think. Not a terribly good camera, but it would make a handy weapon if you were cornered! The South Africans have a wind-up radio for use in remote and rural areas with no power. One wind gets you about 40 minutes of sound, so no doubt they could make a digital camera if they saw a demand - be heavy though. Paul >> BTW, this morning I stumbled across my folk's old Bell & Howell >> 8mm camera. Didn't use Li-Ion, NiMH or even alkalines. Maybe some [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > with no power. One wind gets you about 40 minutes of sound, so no doubt they > could make a digital camera if they saw a demand - be heavy though. Right, it's made by BayGen. And you're right about the weight. I had one of the early models and it was a pretty big beast. Winding the spring is much less tiring than cranking the generators on most of the little 'survival' portable radios I've seen. FWIW, the first 35mm camera I used was a Zorky back about 1960 or so. Compared to the previous cameras I used it took much better pictures, although not nearly as good as the Leica it somewhat resembled would have, and I may have used the Zorky with a Leica lens once or twice. > > That same thought had briefly crossed my mind, also. Although (unlike > > Lawrence Glickman), the "nym shifter" in question was both fanatically [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > day there'll be a digital camera that also uses a windup key. > There's a rumor going around that Sigma's trying to acquire BayGen. Hello, ASAAR: That brings up pleasant memories of childhood, indeed: My family watching highly condensed, silent versions of "The Creature From the Black Lagoon" (1953), "This Island Earth" (1955) - and a few other small-reel wonders, as well - played by a little, old, Keystone movie projector. Ah, those were the (low-tech) days! :-P Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> > > > That same thought had briefly crossed my mind, also. Although (unlike > > > Lawrence Glickman), the "nym shifter" in question was both fanatically [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Cordially, > John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> Hello, ASAAR: Correction: "Creature From the Black Lagoon" (1954). Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> >> Ah, those were the (low-tech) days! :-P > > Hello, ASAAR: > > Correction: "Creature From the Black Lagoon" (1954). But no need for further correction, as the creature was only seen on a nice, but low-tech B&W TV screen. :) I assume it was in color as was "Invaders From Mars", which really benefited from its use of color. > >> Ah, those were the (low-tech) days! :-P > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > as was "Invaders From Mars", which really benefited from its use of > color. Hello, ASAAR: No, it was shot in B&W, as were its two sequels, "Revenge of the Creature" (1955) and "The Creature Walks Among Us" (1956). Here are some "Gill-man" links: Wikipedia - Creature from the Black Lagoon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creature_from_the_Black_Lagoon> Internet Movie Database (IMDb) - Creature from the Black Lagoon (2009) <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0485799> (Note: According to that second Web page, the upcoming movie remake will be in Technicolor!) Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> On 4/20/08 10:48 AM, in article 5epm04paen1iiofgu2bpfgoo6sac8trtvu@4ax.com, >> On 4/19/08 9:46 AM, in article o91k04di2f8eukcv8dcjjbskdeh8q0r3q9@4ax.com, >> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Eat sh.t and Die You are speaking as one with personal experience again we must presume? ----------: A lot of the message has been cut :---------- > Eat sh.t and Die Sorry to but in. It seems like there are a few people in this newsgroup that are not very nice people. Why to people like you keep a thread going just to write obscenities to each other. Thank god for Message Rules. They work great at removing messages from specific E-mail addresses. John. <heavily edited for brevity> > Studied under the likes of Harry Callahan, worked in photojournalism, > studio photography, commercial (advertising) photography, Industrial > photography, owned my own company. <edited> Hello,Lawrence: Is Harry Callahan related to Bill Callahan (former University of Nebraska head football coach, 2004-2007), by any chance? If so, he must be a real loser. :-) No, wait a moment..."Dirty" Harry Callahan is a hard-nosed, San Francisco cop, who looks just like Clint Eastwood. "Go ahead...make my day, punk!" <g> Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> > Matsushita/Panasonic/KME-Create/factory automation, senior engineering > technician [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Lg Blah blah blah...and an ego the size of a small, er, large planet. > >On 4/17/08 9:03 PM, in article 3a0g04l01cdjr2qjics3gdoavf8iotnjp9@4ax.com, > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Lg Hello, Lawrence: Lighten up, man! 63 isn't so old, these days. You'd earlier alluded to having some sort of "implant" (a pacemaker, presumably?), and yet, that doesn't necessarily preclude a lengthy lifetime ahead of you. (I do hope you live long and prosper, in any event.) Share your rich photographic knowledge with the rest of this newsgroup, in a civil manner, please. Cordially, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> |
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