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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / March 2008(Q) Is it Legal to film ppl at nude beach?
I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and possibly publication (if they are good) Legal Questions: 1. Is it against the law to take snaps and movies. 2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. 3. Will ppl attack me. 4. Can I publish the snaps. Thanks, friends! -Ian > I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now For good reason.  SignatureBert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com >I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to >a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >1. Is it against the law to take snaps and movies. No. But if it's private, the owners can control who is allowed to do so. >2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. If you're nude, question is where would you hide it? >3. Will ppl attack me. Quite possibly. >4. Can I publish the snaps. With written permission of those involved. It's best you don't go in the first day with a camera in hand. Get to know the people first before ya go doing that. But if it's a public beach, hey man, it's fair game. >Thanks, friends! > >-Ian In news:6t26u3l9gd82iiqcs42l9to1j735qhghen@4ax.com richard <i.do.not@ca.re> wrote: > No. If you insist on responding to trolls, please take note of the groups to which you're posting. SignatureBert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com Question is: why would you bother? Seriously, nude beaches are not all they are cracked up to be. 95% of the people you wish would put on some more clothes on. And for the 5% you actually want to see naked, bikinis these days are so revealing anyway, what does it matter? Besides, the internet is saturated with nude photos. What's the point? >>I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to >>a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > No. But if it's private, the owners can control who is allowed to do > so. Actually, the rule is: If you can see it, you can take a picture of it....unless it's a restricted military/government site. I can stand on public land and take pictures of anything I see....the only think you will have a problem with is if you use an extreme telephoto lens to take pictures of something you normally wouldn't be able to see with the naked eye. >>2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. > > If you're nude, question is where would you hide it? In some cases, yes, it is. >>3. Will ppl attack me. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > know the people first before ya go doing that. But if it's a public > beach, hey man, it's fair game. Or, you can use photo editing software to blur the faces...making written permission unnecessary. As with anything, check your state/local privacy laws beforehand. >>Thanks, friends! >> >>-Ian With Scientology OT 9 x-ray vision powers you won't need to go to a nude beach With Dianetics CLEAR perfect memory powers you won't need photos that will be $450,000 in small unmarked bills >>I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to >>a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > No. But if it's private, the owners can control who is allowed to do > so. actually that depends on age, under age nude is a felony. (usa) Robert > I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -Ian One thing for sure. Most people look better with their clothes on. I would suggest ... alt.binaries as a news group treasure trove. Signaturewhen you believe the only tool you have is a hammer. problems tend to look like nails. In rec.photo.digital Ian Ossa <0@0.0> wrote: > I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and > possibly publication (if they are good) > Legal Questions: > 1. Is it against the law to take snaps and movies. > 2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. > 3. Will ppl attack me. > 4. Can I publish the snaps. More important than the legal questions is the likely and possibly distressingly illegal response of big strong nude people to the presence of a clothed person on a nude beach, especially a clothed cameraman. So you'll have to conceal the camera while nude. I get the impression you haven't been using your brains to think about this. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] > In rec.photo.digital Ian Ossa <0@0.0> wrote: >> I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > cameraman. So you'll have to conceal the camera while nude. I get the > impression you haven't been using your brains to think about this. Well, we know where he'll be hiding it ... as soon as he removes his head. >I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 1. Is it against the law to take snaps and movies. Not unless there is a local ordinance that prohibits photos and movies on this beach. > 2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. Not unless there is a local ordinance that says so. > 3. Will ppl attack me. Maybe. > 4. Can I publish the snaps. Yes, for non-commercial purposes. This answer must not be relied on as legal advice for the reasons posted here: http://mcgyverdisclaimer.blogspot.com . And I am not your attorney. McGyver >>I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to >> a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Not unless there is a local ordinance that prohibits photos and movies on >this beach. >> 2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. > >Not unless there is a local ordinance that says so. Apparently you haven't heard of the doctor who hid his camera in his bathroom and examining room, and saved videos of his patients in the nude.... You must have been his lawyer when he installed the cameras.... >> 3. Will ppl attack me. > >Maybe. I don't know, let's see.... Kick that 500lb Sumo Wrestler in the Crotch to let him know you want him to undress for you.... We'll observe his response.... >> 4. Can I publish the snaps. > >Yes, for non-commercial purposes. > >This answer must not be relied on as legal advice for the reasons posted >here: http://mcgyverdisclaimer.blogspot.com . And I am not your attorney. Thank God for that! People have been arrested for doing less than your advising! > Apparently you haven't heard of the doctor who hid his camera in his > bathroom and examining room, and saved videos of his patients in the > nude.... You must have been his lawyer when he installed the > cameras.... If you are in a public place and are photographing someone in a public place, you can hide your camera all you want. It's perfectly legal, as there is no expectation of privacy in a public place. >> Apparently you haven't heard of the doctor who hid his camera in his >> bathroom and examining room, and saved videos of his patients in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > place, you can hide your camera all you want. It's perfectly legal, as there > is no expectation of privacy in a public place. I wouldn't want to make such a blanket statement, considering that various political subdivisions have vastly different laws concerning personal privacy. Even in the US, there are variations among the states, and local laws may further complicate the situation. If you don't believe this, just go to a public park and try taking a lot of pictures of the kids on the swings and 'jungle gyms'. >> Apparently you haven't heard of the doctor who hid his camera in his >> bathroom and examining room, and saved videos of his patients in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >place, you can hide your camera all you want. It's perfectly legal, as there >is no expectation of privacy in a public place. The point of being in a public place seems to be pretty much pointless, because the cameras where taken away by a security guard, there fore apparently the place was not a "public" place.... In the USA/CND they'll smash your camera and/or face. In Europe very few will mind. All beaches are public places up to the hig water line, in both cases, and ppl cannot legally object. However, to publish the pix legally, you'll need signed model releases. Polite and wise thing is to get permission beforehand. Many photo- and videographers hang out at Black's Bch, San Diego CA, unmolested. And forget picking up chix on a nude beach. Mostly gay men around on US nude beaches. They might pick YOU up ;-). > I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -Ian >In the USA/CND they'll smash your camera and/or face. In Europe very >few will mind. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >nude beach. Mostly gay men around on US nude beaches. They might pick >YOU up ;-). I have seen a few photos of some 80-90 yr old women on some nude beaches.... I suppose they're at a few beaches.... > In the USA/CND they'll smash your camera and/or face. In Europe very few > will mind. > All beaches are public places up to the hig water line, in both cases, and > ppl cannot legally object. However, to publish the pix legally, you'll > need signed model releases. Since when? A model release is required only when you are using a person's image or likeness to endorse a product. Publishing for the purposes of news, commentary, and other non-commercial purposes is perfectly fine. > I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now > and > I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and > possibly publication (if they are good) How are the clauses before and after the first "and" related? The plan expressed in the second clause will do absolutely nothing to solve the problem expressed in the first clause. SignatureVid the Kid "Does this font make me look fat?" >I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 3. Will ppl attack me. > 4. Can I publish the snaps. no no i sure as hell hope so only if you don't spam me later On Mar 26, 12:39 am, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalid> wrote: > >I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now I know this is a work, but what the hell... and I thought I'd head down to > > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and > > possibly publication (if they are good) You're into 75-year old women with saggy tits? No wonder you can't get any. Jason "i mean, c'mon" Todd > I haven't had a girl for about 10 years now and I thought I'd head down to > a nude beach 30 miles or so away to take some snaps for personal use and > possibly publication (if they are good) If all you think of women is some sex toy for your w.nking pleasures, then I'm not surprised why you haven't had a g/f for the last 10 years. Get with the programme, buddy! > Legal Questions: > > 1. Is it against the law to take snaps and movies. Depends on the place. If it's on a public nude beach owned by the government, legally you can. > 2. Is it against the law to hide my camera. If you're nude, where would you hide it? At a nude beach carnival near where I live, some guy got busted by the organisers of a sports day because his camcorder was found in a polystyrene esky (a container used to chill beer and soft drinks) with a hole cut in the side for the lens to poke out of whilst filming the nudists. So, not recommended. > 3. Will ppl attack me. Depends on what types they are. Nudists range from the hillbilly redneck techno and cameraphobe who'll chuck it in the ocean, to those who'll have a quiet word with you about your credentials as a photographer. You could sue anyone for wilful property damage if they chuck your camera in the sea even if you haven't taken any photos. I think nudists do need to universally work on their public image because this behaviour could work against them. > 4. Can I publish the snaps. Only if you provide your subjects with a release form. The other better way to do it is if you've got some dosh to burn then hire a professional nude model and take her to a beach with you to get some snaps for your spank off collection. Easy! Dario Western |
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