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Cleaning my D3 sensor / Arctic Butterfly

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John Smith - 25 Feb 2008 04:41 GMT
As one who's upgraded over the years from a D100 to a D2Xs and now to a D3,
my D3 seems to be much more prone to dust on the sensor.

I've dealt with it before and sensor cleaning was easy and worked quite well
using a simple ear syringe along with Nikon's recommended cleaning process
using the EH-6 AC Adapter.

The dust spots seem harder to get rid of on my D3 using this same exact
process.  Have other D3 owners noticed the same?

One more question: Samys Camera here in Los Angeles recommended the "Arctic
Butterfly" sensor cleaner. Has anyone tried it, and if so, what has your
experience been?

Thanks,
John
RichA - 25 Feb 2008 22:58 GMT
> As one who's upgraded over the years from a D100 to a D2Xs and now to a D3,
> my D3 seems to be much more prone to dust on the sensor.

Pretty much what the Canon FF users found.  Ironic though, given
diffraction as an issue is less of a problem on a large sensor camera
than a smaller one, yet dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
images.
Bob G - 26 Feb 2008 15:38 GMT
... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
> images.

What's FF?

Is it really that difficult and time-consuming to spell it out?

Pretty soon we'll all be speaking in acronyms.

jfud  hfgt  aj  ngh?
Adrian Boliston - 26 Feb 2008 16:02 GMT
> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>> images.
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> jfud  hfgt  aj  ngh?

People keep calling a digital single lens reflex camera a "DSLR", bloody
frustrating!
John Smith - 26 Feb 2008 16:41 GMT
FF = Full Frame (sensor) as opposed to DX format.  Nikon actually uses the
acronym "FX" for their full frame sensor, but it's usually abbreviated to
FF.

> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>> images.
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> jfud  hfgt  aj  ngh?
RichA - 26 Feb 2008 17:31 GMT
> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>
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>
> jfud  hfgt  aj  ngh?

FF = Full Frame is an unfortunate designation.  The real definition
should be 35mm sensor size, as FF is purely arbitrary, based on a FILM
standard from 1911.
The old geezers of the photo community would cry like childen if some
company released a different size (larger) because their ancient
legacy film lenses would no longer work.
John Smith - 26 Feb 2008 17:36 GMT
There ARE larger sizes you young dweeb.  It's called medium format, large
format.

Ever seen a 20x24 large format FILM camera. Now, there's some Gigapixels!

Get educated: http://wisner.com/Page13.html

>> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>>
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> company released a different size (larger) because their ancient
> legacy film lenses would no longer work.
TRoss - 26 Feb 2008 18:04 GMT
>> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>>
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>company released a different size (larger) because their ancient
>legacy film lenses would no longer work.

You may be surprised to learn that there are several medium and large
format digital cameras on the market. Hasselblad, Rollei, Mamiya,
Fuji, Leaf, Phase One, BetterLight, Imacon to name a few.

Not that you would let facts get in the way of one of your idiotic
rants.....

TR
Neil Ellwood - 26 Feb 2008 20:00 GMT
>>> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>>>
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>
> TR

You forgot to point out that Oscar Barnack didn't sell his camera
commercially until somewhere around 1927.

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Jürgen Exner - 26 Feb 2008 18:11 GMT
>> What's FF?
>
>FF = Full Frame is an unfortunate designation.  The real definition
>should be 35mm sensor size, as FF is purely arbitrary, based on a FILM
>standard from 1911.

The real designation is Kleinbildformat as it was used in 1913 by Oskar
Barnack when he developed the very first Leica camera for Leitz.
The literal translation would be small picture/image format which matches
very nicely with the terms medium frame and large frame camera.

jue
John Smith - 26 Feb 2008 19:13 GMT
Vielen Dank Herr Jurgen!  Ganz nett von dir!

>>> What's FF?
>>
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> jue
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios - 26 Feb 2008 20:18 GMT
> Vielen Dank Herr Jurgen!  Ganz nett von dir!

Ach, Du sprichst auch Deutsch?

> >>> What's FF?
> >>
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> > The literal translation would be small picture/image format which matches
> > very nicely with the terms medium frame and large frame camera.

Kleinbildformat, Spiegelreflexkamera, Objektiv und so weiter:-)

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr
John Smith - 27 Feb 2008 01:21 GMT
Jürgen,

Genau meiner Freund, aber es ist eine sehr lange Zeit seit Ich Deutsch
gesprochen habe! Ich habe in Goettingen in 1972-1973 als ein Student der
"University of California Education Abroad Program" studierte.  Es war eine
ausgezeichnete Erlebnis, aber meine Vortschatz ist nur so Schwach!

I hope I didn't say anything TOO stupid above. <s>  I would love to find a
way to revice my German here in southern California!

Tschuss!

>> Vielen Dank Herr Jurgen!  Ganz nett von dir!
>>
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> mechanized infantry reservist
> hordad AT otenet DOT gr
Jürgen Exner - 27 Feb 2008 06:16 GMT
>  I would love to find a
>way to revice my German here in southern California!

This is getting vastly off topic, but if you are serious then you may want
to check if there is a Goethe Institute somewhere in your neighbourhood.

Also, Silicon Valley with all the high-tech immigrants should have a pretty
strong German community, too.

jue
John Smith - 27 Feb 2008 06:24 GMT
Once again, many thanks!

>>  I would love to find a
>>way to revice my German here in southern California!
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>
> jue
Father Kodak - 28 Feb 2008 04:07 GMT
>Also, Silicon Valley with all the high-tech immigrants should have a pretty
>strong German community, too.

Some Germans live in Silicon Valley but they are hard to find, because
their English is generally so good.

Father Kodak
David J Taylor - 27 Feb 2008 08:05 GMT
> Jürgen,
>
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>
> Tschuss!

Listen to a German radio or TV station over the Internet?  Better than
nothing....

Cheers,
David
Rita Berkowitz - 26 Feb 2008 20:35 GMT
> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>> images.
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>
> Pretty soon we'll all be speaking in acronyms.

Naw, we just use what works.  Sensor cleaning made easy.

<http://www.geocities.com/ritaberk2006/sensor.htm>

Rita
AlanW - 27 Feb 2008 01:26 GMT
Rita, You're a hoot!

Cheers,
Alan

>> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
>>> images.
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>Rita
 
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