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> ... dust (visible dust) seems to be worse with FF
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> jfud hfgt aj ngh?
People keep calling a digital single lens reflex camera a "DSLR", bloody
frustrating!
FF = Full Frame (sensor) as opposed to DX format. Nikon actually uses the
acronym "FX" for their full frame sensor, but it's usually abbreviated to
FF.
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> jfud hfgt aj ngh?
FF = Full Frame is an unfortunate designation. The real definition
should be 35mm sensor size, as FF is purely arbitrary, based on a FILM
standard from 1911.
The old geezers of the photo community would cry like childen if some
company released a different size (larger) because their ancient
legacy film lenses would no longer work.
John Smith - 26 Feb 2008 17:36 GMT
There ARE larger sizes you young dweeb. It's called medium format, large
format.
Ever seen a 20x24 large format FILM camera. Now, there's some Gigapixels!
Get educated: http://wisner.com/Page13.html
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TRoss - 26 Feb 2008 18:04 GMT
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>company released a different size (larger) because their ancient
>legacy film lenses would no longer work.
You may be surprised to learn that there are several medium and large
format digital cameras on the market. Hasselblad, Rollei, Mamiya,
Fuji, Leaf, Phase One, BetterLight, Imacon to name a few.
Not that you would let facts get in the way of one of your idiotic
rants.....
TR
Neil Ellwood - 26 Feb 2008 20:00 GMT
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> TR
You forgot to point out that Oscar Barnack didn't sell his camera
commercially until somewhere around 1927.

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Jürgen Exner - 26 Feb 2008 18:11 GMT
>> What's FF?
>
>FF = Full Frame is an unfortunate designation. The real definition
>should be 35mm sensor size, as FF is purely arbitrary, based on a FILM
>standard from 1911.
The real designation is Kleinbildformat as it was used in 1913 by Oskar
Barnack when he developed the very first Leica camera for Leitz.
The literal translation would be small picture/image format which matches
very nicely with the terms medium frame and large frame camera.
jue
John Smith - 26 Feb 2008 19:13 GMT
Vielen Dank Herr Jurgen! Ganz nett von dir!
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios - 26 Feb 2008 20:18 GMT
> Vielen Dank Herr Jurgen! Ganz nett von dir!
Ach, Du sprichst auch Deutsch?
> >>> What's FF?
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> > The literal translation would be small picture/image format which matches
> > very nicely with the terms medium frame and large frame camera.
Kleinbildformat, Spiegelreflexkamera, Objektiv und so weiter:-)
--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr
John Smith - 27 Feb 2008 01:21 GMT
Jürgen,
Genau meiner Freund, aber es ist eine sehr lange Zeit seit Ich Deutsch
gesprochen habe! Ich habe in Goettingen in 1972-1973 als ein Student der
"University of California Education Abroad Program" studierte. Es war eine
ausgezeichnete Erlebnis, aber meine Vortschatz ist nur so Schwach!
I hope I didn't say anything TOO stupid above. <s> I would love to find a
way to revice my German here in southern California!
Tschuss!
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> mechanized infantry reservist
> hordad AT otenet DOT gr
Jürgen Exner - 27 Feb 2008 06:16 GMT
> I would love to find a
>way to revice my German here in southern California!
This is getting vastly off topic, but if you are serious then you may want
to check if there is a Goethe Institute somewhere in your neighbourhood.
Also, Silicon Valley with all the high-tech immigrants should have a pretty
strong German community, too.
jue
John Smith - 27 Feb 2008 06:24 GMT
Once again, many thanks!
>> I would love to find a
>>way to revice my German here in southern California!
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> jue
Father Kodak - 28 Feb 2008 04:07 GMT
>Also, Silicon Valley with all the high-tech immigrants should have a pretty
>strong German community, too.
Some Germans live in Silicon Valley but they are hard to find, because
their English is generally so good.
Father Kodak
David J Taylor - 27 Feb 2008 08:05 GMT
> Jürgen,
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> Tschuss!
Listen to a German radio or TV station over the Internet? Better than
nothing....
Cheers,
David
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> Pretty soon we'll all be speaking in acronyms.
Naw, we just use what works. Sensor cleaning made easy.
<http://www.geocities.com/ritaberk2006/sensor.htm>
Rita
AlanW - 27 Feb 2008 01:26 GMT
Rita, You're a hoot!
Cheers,
Alan
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