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What price for framed prints?

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Eric Miller - 28 Jan 2008 14:58 GMT
I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
sale at an upcoming art show.

The following image will be 16x25 inches and custom framed (for about
$125 framing cost):

<http://www.dyesscreek.com/galleries/index.php?display=travel%2Fcanadian_rockies_
2007%2F2106573-9b19d126f0709a94.jpg
>

The following two images will be printed at 11x14 and framed in wooden
frames:

<http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3061.jpg>
<http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3242.jpg>

The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
what price to charge. Any ideas?

Thanks

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com
John McWilliams - 28 Jan 2008 15:46 GMT
> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
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>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3242.jpg>  

> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
> what price to charge. Any ideas?

Moraine image: I'd love to see this in print- process? Gelatin or
inkjet? Off the cuff, %450 sounds right.

Hummers: Assuming a framing cost of ca. $50, I'd guess $ !50, maybe $250
the pair.

For me, the stem in the background stuck out, and now I can't get it out
of my mind. I wonder if cloning it out might be an improvement? (It's
the only one that's clearly OoF. Nothing wrong with OoF itself, but
somehow, for me, it catches too much attention, due to where it lies in
the photo.)

Very nice stuff, Eric.

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Eric Miller - 28 Jan 2008 16:05 GMT
> Moraine image: I'd love to see this in print- process? Gelatin or
> inkjet? Off the cuff, %450 sounds right.
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>
> Very nice stuff, Eric.

Thanks John. I have found a place online, Reed Photo, that will print
these images with a lightjet onto Fuji Crystal Archive paper. The
Moraine shot is a stitch of four portrait shots taken with a 5D so I
have plenty of pixels to work with.

The price on framing the hummingbirds will be around $50. The print
itself will probably cost about $20 more (just a guess, I haven't priced
the 11x14s, the 16x24 will run around $70 for the print, about $200
total cost framed. I was thinking somewhere around $400, but had
absolute no reference prices to use since I haven't bought or sold
prints before.

Thanks,

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com
John McWilliams - 28 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
>> Moraine image: I'd love to see this in print- process? Gelatin or
>> inkjet? Off the cuff, %450 sounds right.
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> absolute no reference prices to use since I haven't bought or sold
> prints before.

I don't sell thataway, although maybe someday. I try to see all local
street fairs in the BayArea that I can, and my suggestions are based on
that. Though I was thinking the hummers were going to be 8 x 10, so
printing costs would be nil on that size. Darn, too bad you aren't
nearby. I could print the 16 x 24s on my new Epson 3800.

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____ - 29 Jan 2008 00:06 GMT
> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com

Best to start out high and lower prices as needed. Most Photographers
under sell there work and this complicates the pricing for everyone.
Standard business practice use to be  100 percent mark up from expenses.
But many successful art selling photographers will tell you more like
700% is easily obtainable. It just depends on the buyer. I've sold lots
of 80 dollar 16x20's that I've printed and matted, a few 250.00 16x20's
framed under glass and an occasional 16x20 at 450.00 framed under glass.
I would rather sell 10 at 80.00 than one at 450.00 although two at
450.00 be nicer.

I think you could go higher for the humming birds than John's 50.00 I'd
say they are certainly  worth 150.00 each at 11x14 matted and framed.
The B&W I think although a nice picture, its too generic for 450.00 It
is also probably not going to be as sharp as someone who is using and is
good at  using a Large format camera printed at that size. There will be
competition doing so with better imagery. Of course it all depends on
the buyer as stated.

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John McWilliams - 29 Jan 2008 14:43 GMT
>> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
>> sale at an upcoming art show.
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>> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
>> what price to charge. Any ideas?

> Best to start out high and lower prices as needed. Most Photographers
> under sell there work and this complicates the pricing for everyone.
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> I think you could go higher for the humming birds than John's 50.00 I'd
> say they are certainly  worth 150.00 each at 11x14 matted and framed.

It looks like I hit the ! exclamation point ! instead of a one. It may
show up differently or blank depending on your set up, but we're in the
same pew with $150- I was thinking 8 x 10 matted and framed, though.

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Eric Miller - 29 Jan 2008 22:02 GMT
> It
> is also probably not going to be as sharp as someone who is using and is
> good at  using a Large format camera printed at that size. There will be
> competition doing so with better imagery. Of course it all depends on
> the buyer as stated.

Maybe so, but that image is a stitch of 4 portrait oriented shots from a
 Canon 5D so there really are a lot of pixels to work with.

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com
____ - 29 Jan 2008 23:38 GMT
>  > It
> > is also probably not going to be as sharp as someone who is using and is
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> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com

If its stitched it may be sharper. It just lacks a dramatic sky and
maybe some foreground interest.....then it would be a more salable shot.

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tomm42 - 29 Jan 2008 13:44 GMT
On Jan 28, 9:58 am, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com

Eric,
Nice images, I wouldn't print the Moraine picture on Fuji Archive, if
you want a chemical print, try to find a company that is working with
a b&w paper, much better tonality. I stopped using a local printer and
bought a wide format inkjet, just for the reason I really don't like
b&w images on color paper. Inkjet will give a more archival life
expectancy anyway.
Just my opinion,
Tom
Eric Miller - 29 Jan 2008 22:00 GMT
> On Jan 28, 9:58 am, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Just my opinion,
> Tom

Thanks, I'll probably give it a try with a local printer.

Eric Miller
Allen - 30 Jan 2008 01:26 GMT
> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com
I can't give you help on your question, but your pictures make me lust
for a 5D (and the talent to get pictures like these.
Allen
____ - 30 Jan 2008 05:39 GMT
> I can't give you help on your question, but your pictures make me lust
> for a 5D (and the talent to get pictures like these.
> Allen

Maybe you should just pay someone else it will be cheaper, and less work
understanding that complicated camera ;)

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Allen - 30 Jan 2008 15:29 GMT
>> I can't give you help on your question, but your pictures make me lust
>> for a 5D (and the talent to get pictures like these.
>> Allen
>
> Maybe you should just pay someone else it will be cheaper, and less work
> understanding that complicated camera ;)

Maybe you should not prejudge a person's level of intelligence; don't
assume that everyone is as incompetent as you. I would be happy to match
my IQ, technical skills and photographic experience with you, but that
wouldn't be possible, considering that I won't be seeing any more of
your idiotic posts.
Allen
 
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