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Coolpix 5700 dead: replace or repair?

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not_a_commie - 16 Jun 2007 04:24 GMT
My Nikon Coolpix 5700 died after four years of usage. Picture counter
shows 5074, which I don't think is a huge number. Okay so it still
works, it just looks like someone was holding their finger over the
top half of every shot. Except instead of being dark, the majority of
the upper half of every image is bright cyan blue with a few sprinkles
of red. The viewfinder looks like somebody poured water on the image
(though I'm certain the camera hasn't gotten wet.)

I confess I was disappointed with the 5700. It takes so long to focus!
And the way you connect the polarizer is silly. It's too big for my
pocket but no better than many that would fit in my pocket.

The local photo store says $192 flat rate to fix any Nikon camera,
unless there's something drastically wrong, in which case it will be
more. I'm not sure this camera is worth that much to me. (We won't
state how much I was conned into paying for this camera originally,
but it was before I was married...)

What pocket-sized digital camera would you recommend that would use my
512MB Compact Flash Type 1 card? Or is there an (older-model) digital
camcorder that would use that memory card?  Or is there a (used) SLR
that uses that type of card that would be worth getting? Or is there
some cheap way to get CP5700 repairs? Or should I scrap it all and
order a new one?

Thanks,
Brannon
Shawn Hirn - 16 Jun 2007 05:51 GMT
> My Nikon Coolpix 5700 died after four years of usage. Picture counter
> shows 5074, which I don't think is a huge number. Okay so it still
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>
> The local photo store says $192 flat rate to fix any Nikon camera

Geez, for a little more than that, you can buy a new digital camera.
David J Taylor - 16 Jun 2007 08:54 GMT
> My Nikon Coolpix 5700 died after four years of usage. Picture counter
> shows 5074, which I don't think is a huge number. Okay so it still
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> Thanks,
> Brannon

Nikon did recall the 5700 to replace a failed Sony CCD a year or two back.

David
Zen Diver - 16 Jun 2007 14:09 GMT
>> My Nikon Coolpix 5700 died after four years of usage. Picture counter
>> shows 5074, which I don't think is a huge number. Okay so it still
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>
> David

I don't think it was a full on recall, but you are right about them
having trouble with the CCD in that and several other models.  Nikon
issued a notice stating that cameras affected by this CCD issue would be
repaired free of charge.  From the description it sounds like your
camera may be suffering from this problem.

I have a 5700 which had the problem, although it manifested itself in a
slightly different manner, the entire picture was black.  I sent it off
direct to the Nikon service department and it came back about a month
later working fine.

Here's a link to the notice on NikonUSA
http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bin/nikonusa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqi
d=13688

and on NikonEurope
http://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nikoneurope_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_ad
p.php?p_faqid=15856


Worth a try, its only going to cost you postage.

jon
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not_a_commie - 28 Jun 2007 16:44 GMT
Thanks for the info on that recall. It was fixed within a week for the
cost of $5 in shipping. I was astounded. I think I'll buy Nikon again
next time.
Mike Russell - 29 Jun 2007 22:33 GMT
> Thanks for the info on that recall. It was fixed within a week for the
> cost of $5 in shipping. I was astounded. I think I'll buy Nikon again
> next time.

Super!  Glad this had a happy ending.
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Neil Harrington - 16 Jun 2007 15:32 GMT
> My Nikon Coolpix 5700 died after four years of usage. Picture counter
> shows 5074, which I don't think is a huge number. Okay so it still
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> state how much I was conned into paying for this camera originally,
> but it was before I was married...)

If you were disappointed with it anyway I can't see even considering having
it repaired for that price.

> What pocket-sized digital camera would you recommend that would use my
> 512MB Compact Flash Type 1 card? Or is there an (older-model) digital
> camcorder that would use that memory card?  Or is there a (used) SLR
> that uses that type of card that would be worth getting?

Compact Flash cards are pretty much going the way of the dodo bird, at least
as far as consumer-level cameras are concerned. SD cards have become the
standard for all practical purposes (except for Fuji and Olympus cameras),
they're very inexpensive and are often available on sale or with good
rebates. I certainly wouldn't advise you to choose a new camera to fit your
old 512MB CF card. Memory card prices have come down dramatically since you
bought that camera.

I just bought a 2GB SD card for $9.95 after rebate! ($35.95 and a $26
rebate, from Buy.com) There are sales and rebates similar to this all the
time.

> Or is there
> some cheap way to get CP5700 repairs? Or should I scrap it all and
> order a new one?

If I were you I'd put it up for sale on eBay, just describe the problems as
accurately as you can -- broken digital cameras are frequently up for sale
on eBay and they seem to sell well.

For a new camera, consider the Nikon Coolpix P5000 (about $350) if you want
a very capable camera that's fairly pocketable, or the Nikon D40 ($525 and
up with 18-55mm kit lens, online) if you want to move up to a DSLR. The D40
is really a great little camera, I have one and I love it, and that price is
probably less than you paid for your Coolpix 5700 four years ago. The D40 is
somewhat bigger than your 5700 but still quite compact and lightweight for
an SLR. And it's an incredible value for the price.

Read this review:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40.htm

Neil
greenthumbwannabe@gmail.com - 16 Jun 2007 19:26 GMT
Will the D40 shoot video?
David J Taylor - 16 Jun 2007 21:54 GMT
> Will the D40 shoot video?

Yes, at 2 or three frames per second, and make rather a lot of acoustic
noise at the same time.

David
Neil Harrington - 17 Jun 2007 02:26 GMT
> Will the D40 shoot video?

No. No DSLRs can shoot video the way compact or "prosumer" digital cameras
can, because the mirror has to swing up, the diaphragm has to stop down, the
shutter has to open and close to make the exposure, and the mirror has to
drop back down -- just as in film SLRs. No conventional SLR can do that 15
or 30 times in a second, which is what it would have to do in order to shoot
video.

Neil
Mike Russell - 17 Jun 2007 06:23 GMT
...
> No. No DSLRs can shoot video the way compact or "prosumer" digital cameras
> can, because the mirror has to swing up, the diaphragm has to stop down,
> the shutter has to open and close to make the exposure, and the mirror has
> to drop back down -- just as in film SLRs. No conventional SLR can do that
> 15 or 30 times in a second, which is what it would have to do in order to
> shoot video.

If there were a market demand, they could lock the mirror in the up
position, add logic to stream a lower rez image to the flash card, and to
the LCD display to serve as a viewfinder during the video take.
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dj_nme - 17 Jun 2007 14:16 GMT
> ...
>
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> position, add logic to stream a lower rez image to the flash card, and to
> the LCD display to serve as a viewfinder during the video take.

Isn't that what Olympus, Panasonic and Leica have implemented with the
"mode 2 Live-View" on their latest DSLR cameras?
Neil Harrington - 18 Jun 2007 15:13 GMT
> ...
>> No. No DSLRs can shoot video the way compact or "prosumer" digital
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> position, add logic to stream a lower rez image to the flash card, and to
> the LCD display to serve as a viewfinder during the video take.

They could, but not likely at the D40's price point, and I can't believe
there'd be market much demand for something like that anyway. There are
still enough prosumer models available like the Panasonic FZ series et al.
for anyone who really wants a digital camera that will shoot video too.

Neil
Bill Funk - 18 Jun 2007 22:04 GMT
>> Will the D40 shoot video?
>
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>
>Neil

There are now DSLRs on the market that use a secondary sensor to
provide live preview; it doesn't need the mirror to be locked up, and
indeed won't work while the mirror is up. There is nothing to prevent
this sensor from shooting video, if the sensor is capable of doing so.

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Neil Harrington - 19 Jun 2007 14:51 GMT
>>> Will the D40 shoot video?
>>
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> indeed won't work while the mirror is up. There is nothing to prevent
> this sensor from shooting video, if the sensor is capable of doing so.

That's interesting. I am not very familiar with things going on outside the
Nikon world, but I did see some post suggesting something like that -- which
is why I said "no conventional SLR."

That sure sounds like an overcomplicated arrangement, though. Where's the
secondary sensor placed?

Yep, very possibly.

Neil
David J Taylor - 19 Jun 2007 15:28 GMT
[]
> That sure sounds like an overcomplicated arrangement, though. Where's
> the secondary sensor placed?

See:
 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330/

David
Neil Harrington - 19 Jun 2007 21:57 GMT
> []
>> That sure sounds like an overcomplicated arrangement, though. Where's
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>
> David

Ah, thanks. Very interesting.

Neil
Bill Funk - 19 Jun 2007 17:44 GMT
>>>> Will the D40 shoot video?
>>>
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>That sure sounds like an overcomplicated arrangement, though. Where's the
>secondary sensor placed?

It's up by the porro mirror, in the viewfinder optical path.
It can be seen here:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330/

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David J Taylor - 19 Jun 2007 17:47 GMT
[]
> It's up by the porro mirror, in the viewfinder optical path.
> It can be seen here:
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330/

You must have missed that I gave the same reference!

David
Bill Funk - 20 Jun 2007 17:20 GMT
>[]
>> It's up by the porro mirror, in the viewfinder optical path.
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>
>David

I missed it because it wasn't in my reader when I posted.
Yes, you beat me by more than 2 hours!
Congratulations! :-)

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David J Taylor - 20 Jun 2007 17:42 GMT
[]
> I missed it because it wasn't in my reader when I posted.
> Yes, you beat me by more than 2 hours!
> Congratulations! :-)

It's surprising what difference having a permanent (e.g. ADSL or Cable)
commection makes.  I hope there's an even better diagram somewhere, but DP
Review was where we both found it.  Once would have expected something on
the Olympus Web site describing their live view.  Checking....  Not as
good, but interesting:

 http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/products/e330/feature/index.html#a1

David
Neil Harrington - 19 Jun 2007 21:59 GMT
>>>>> Will the D40 shoot video?
>>>>
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> It can be seen here:
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330/

Thanks to you also!

Neil
 
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