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Apple ipod camera connector?

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the_niner_nation - 28 May 2007 13:10 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the ipod digital camera
connector as means of transfering photos from camera to the ipod ...I \m
looking for a storage solution to back up photos ina field based environment
and wondering if this might be a suitable alternative to purchasing lots and
lots of CF flash cards.

Does using the connector from ipod to camera have a big drain on pwer for
both the camera battery and the ipod? This is important to me as I will be
in an environment where there will be close to zero chance of finding an
electrical outlet to charge my camera (and ipod if I take it)

The Canon 400d isn't on the compatibility list for the ipod photo connector,
but I read somewhere that it works fine on the 400d.

also, does anyone know if it is possible to connect a USB card reader to the
ipod camera connector ( hence saving battery  power during photo transfer)?

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babaloo - 28 May 2007 23:29 GMT
The ipod connector will recognize and connect to most dSLRs.
However it will not reliably download data.
It works for some "compatible" P&S cameras but not all and not consistently.
As the ipod can be used as a data storage device, albeit not readily and
using methods Apple does not publicize, when attached to a computer I cannot
understand why someone else has not marketed a card reader that will work
reliably and upload at the speeds the ipod is capable of writing data, which
is quite reasonably fast for a device of this type. The card reader could
even be battery powered.
There is absolutely no technical barrier to immediately producing such a
device.
I presume Apple will not allow such a device as it might change the
expensively marketed image of the ipod as a cool multimedia device to what
it really is: a tiny form factor hard drive with a very cleverly designed
control wheel that is saddled with an antique, closed operating system only
a monopolist like Apple could love.
nospam - 28 May 2007 23:59 GMT
> The ipod connector will recognize and connect to most dSLRs.
> However it will not reliably download data.
> It works for some "compatible" P&S cameras but not all and not consistently.
> As the ipod can be used as a data storage device, albeit not readily and
> using methods Apple does not publicize,

the information needed to build a dock accessory is available.

> when attached to a computer I cannot
> understand why someone else has not marketed a card reader that will work
> reliably and upload at the speeds the ipod is capable of writing data, which
> is quite reasonably fast for a device of this type. The card reader could
> even be battery powered.

belkin did, and it used its own batteries.

> There is absolutely no technical barrier to immediately producing such a
> device.

actually it isn't as simple as you seem to think.

> I presume Apple will not allow such a device as it might change the
> expensively marketed image of the ipod as a cool multimedia device to what
> it really is: a tiny form factor hard drive with a very cleverly designed
> control wheel that is saddled with an antique, closed operating system only
> a monopolist like Apple could love.

nonsense.  apple doesn't prohibit it, and there are zillions of third
party ipod accessories of all types.  there is even a breathalyzer
attachment for ipods.
Paul Allen - 29 May 2007 05:39 GMT
> Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the ipod digital
> camera connector as means of transfering photos from camera to the
> ipod ...I \m looking for a storage solution to back up photos ina
> field based environment and wondering if this might be a suitable
> alternative to purchasing lots and lots of CF flash cards.

I have a 30GB video iPod and am considering the camera connector for
offloading images.  My experience is that I've googled it to death.
:-)

> Does using the connector from ipod to camera have a big drain on pwer
> for both the camera battery and the ipod?

Apparently, yes.  The copy operation is very slow.  I've seen it
consistently reported that copying a full 1GB card is in the vicinity
of draining a fully charged iPod battery.  If the copy doesn't finish,
you cannot just recharge everything and restart the copy where it left
off.  It will start over from the beginning unless you manually clear
stuff out of the card first.  The camera connector appears to be
useful only if you can limit yourself to somewhat less than a GB of
images at a time and if you have ready access to power.

> This is important to me as
> I will be in an environment where there will be close to zero chance
> of finding an electrical outlet to charge my camera (and ipod if I
> take it)

The iPod plus camera connector won't do what you need if you can't find
power.

> The Canon 400d isn't on the compatibility list for the ipod photo
> connector, but I read somewhere that it works fine on the 400d.

It's hard to imagine why it wouldn't just work with any camera that
implements the usb_storage model, but you will find lots of reports
both that it works fine and that it works unreliably or not at all
with some cameras.  It's sometimes hard to distinguish an unreliability
report from an "It ran the battery down and I couldn't figure out how
to recover" sort of report.

> also, does anyone know if it is possible to connect a USB card reader
> to the ipod camera connector ( hence saving battery  power during
> photo transfer)?

This might work if the card reader had its own battery.  The real hard
limit is that the iPod only has enough juice onboard to transfer a bit
less than a GB.  If you add a card reader to the iPod's current drain,
you just hit the wall sooner.  I don't recall seeing reports of anyone
hooking a card reader to the camera connector.

I shoot 8Mp JPEG's, and can generally go many days on a 1GB card,  I
figure Apple's camera connector would be useful on a trip lasting more
than two weeks where I had at least sporadic access to power.  If I were
going on an extended trip off the grid, I'd probably just buy more
memory.  It's cheap lately.

Paul Allen
the_niner_nation - 31 May 2007 21:37 GMT
>> Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the ipod digital
>> camera connector as means of transfering photos from camera to the
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> Paul Allen

Cheers, paul...it dosn't make sense for em to use the ipod as a storage
device for this trip on the abck of what you and several others have
indicated regarding the power usage of the ipod ..and  i beliebe youre
correct in saying that buying more memory is the way to go for this
particular trip.

cheers!

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