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Kodak Z712IS Australia vs USA

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Michael.Pasturi@gmail.com - 08 May 2007 07:51 GMT
Really tried to like and to buy a  Kodak, but it seems they DON'T want
my business or money.Plain STUPID what they have done to the prices

ie

Fujifilm S700/S5700   RRP US$249   AUS$399

Kodak Z712IS           RRP US$299    AUS$650

Kodak must be using a special unknown formula, they are PLAYING with
themselves if they think they can do stunts like this.

Is it no wonder Cano zoom passed them as the #1 selling brand on the
planet?

"Hello Kodak, anybody home"
Ron Hunter - 08 May 2007 10:33 GMT
> Really tried to like and to buy a  Kodak, but it seems they DON'T want
> my business or money.Plain STUPID what they have done to the prices
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> "Hello Kodak, anybody home"

This may not be due to Kodak's policies, but government tariffs which
are intended to protect more local companies from competition.  If you
notice US companies products being noticeably more expensive, talk to
your own government about it.  Kodak seems to compete well on price most
places.
Michael.Pasturi@gmail.com - 09 May 2007 00:35 GMT
> Michael.Past...@gmail.com wrote:
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No tariff/duty on cameras in Australia, in fact USA is in a better
position than Japan anyway [not that either come from birth country]

USA & AUS have free trade agreement, NO tariff on anything

Fujifilm want business, Kodak bad run company and need all that profit
to operate and feed all the mouths...
ray - 08 May 2007 16:01 GMT
On Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:57 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:

> Really tried to like and to buy a  Kodak, but it seems they DON'T want
> my business or money.Plain STUPID what they have done to the prices
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> "Hello Kodak, anybody home"

Prices from??? Have you tried the Kodak online store - I've had great
experiences with their refurb products - recently got a P850 there for
$250 - price has declined since. I'd recommend you look at the P series -
it offers several advantages, such as save as raw,tiff,jpeg; full manual
mode.
Michael.Pasturi@gmail.com - 09 May 2007 00:36 GMT
> On Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:57 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:
> > Really tried to like and to buy a  Kodak, but it seems they DON'T want
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Price i quoted are the RRP/List price set by Kodak and Fujifilm

Kodak dont do a online store in AUS

Not interested in saving photos other than in jpeg, otherwise i would
just buy a  SLR
ray - 09 May 2007 03:38 GMT
On Tue, 08 May 2007 16:36:54 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:

>> On Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:57 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:
>> > Really tried to like and to buy a  Kodak, but it seems they DON'T want
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> Kodak dont do a online store in AUS

So, could you do the US online store and have it shipped there? Savings
are pretty huge.

> Not interested in saving photos other than in jpeg, otherwise i would
> just buy a  SLR
Michael.Pasturi@gmail.com - 09 May 2007 05:15 GMT
> On Tue, 08 May 2007 16:36:54 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:
> >> On Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:57 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:
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> So, could you do the US online store and have it shipped there? Savings
> are pretty huge.

Before yes, but now no, have you seen the scams and stunts pulled by
most [but not all] the camera stores in NewYork?

Having said that i am sure some honest traders are in USA

I purchased my FinePix from a online in Australia and the camera
shipped from Malaysia direct to me....

I dont think i would purchase a Kodak now because of its *ethics* or
lack of.

Besides the Finepix S700/S5700 is a *better* camera

Cheers

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ray - 09 May 2007 16:09 GMT
On Tue, 08 May 2007 21:15:25 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:

>> On Tue, 08 May 2007 16:36:54 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:57 -0700, Michael.Pasturi wrote:
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> Before yes, but now no, have you seen the scams and stunts pulled by
> most [but not all] the camera stores in NewYork?

I wasn't suggesting camera stores - how about the Kodak online store for
refurbs?

> Having said that i am sure some honest traders are in USA
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> Besides the Finepix S700/S5700 is a *better* camera

Possibly - but I don't do fuji anything, because of their ethics or lack
thereof. I still recall the reports from Japan several years ago of fuji
using their clout to prevent stores there from selling Kodak film.

> Cheers
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Ron Baird - 08 May 2007 19:17 GMT
Hi Mike,

Actually, Mike it is the retailer that sets the price you see. Also, I
suspect the value of the Dollar in the market may something to do with the
pric. It is something you can work through with the retailers in your area.

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

> Really tried to like and to buy a  Kodak, but it seems they DON'T want
> my business or money.Plain STUPID what they have done to the prices
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> "Hello Kodak, anybody home"
Michael.Pasturi@gmail.com - 09 May 2007 00:40 GMT
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Thankyou for your reply today Ron.

The retailers discount from the RRP/List price set by Kodak/Fujifilm

Its ok seen it all before, soon as Kodak see slow sales, price will be
slashed to the real level.

USA is 17 year high vs AUS dollar if anything it should be only 20%
more than the USA price, Japans Yen is still high vs USA$, Kodak and
plain greedy and stupid, when will they wake up, when they are no
longer in the top 10 selling digital brand.

Frankly ANOTHER poorly run USA company, to top heavy and only worried
about Nth.America market and nothing more

Cheers

M/P
Ron Hunter - 09 May 2007 08:17 GMT
>> Hi Mike,
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> M/P

Funny, last time I looked, they were number one, worldwide.  BTW, your
bias is showing, and you seem to have ignored many changes in the past
two years at Kodak.
ASAAR - 09 May 2007 13:05 GMT
>> Frankly ANOTHER poorly run USA company, to top heavy and only worried
>> about Nth.America market and nothing more
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> bias is showing, and you seem to have ignored many changes in the past
> two years at Kodak.

 Funny, last time I looked, Michael.Pasturi was "kinga", master of
inane posts, and one who deserves to be ignored.
Ron Baird - 09 May 2007 14:56 GMT
Hi Mike,

Wish you were here to see the changes that have been made, Mike, you would
think otherwise. I don't know of a more streamlined high performing company
than Kodak. Having a hard time due to issues that are out of your control
creates a very finely honed business acumen. There is no top heavy at Kodak.
We went from around 140,000 employees WW to between 35,000 to 40,000, losing
100,000 jobs over the last decade or so. Kodak knows what it is doing and
the knowledge comes from a lot of blood, sweat, and tears of those that went
before us.

I still strongly suggest that you review the prices with the retailers
offering them.

Best Regards,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

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> M/P
Michael.Pasturi@gmail.com - 10 May 2007 02:21 GMT
Hi Ron,

Thanks for the heads up, good to see Kodak is getting itself back on
track, lots of other US companies can take a leaf out of that..

Been plenty of bloodshed at Kodak Australia, film manufacture plant
shut and sold, and heaps and heaps of jobs axed.

Call centre is now fowarded to India [We Aussies HATE them] and lots
of other cost cutting here downunder.

We certainly be on the look out for the Z712IS, otherwise i will buy
it directly from you, and you can courier it downunder after payment
is confirmed

Cheers

M/P

> Hi Mike,
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> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
John Turco - 30 May 2007 04:02 GMT
> Hi Ron,
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> M/P

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Hello, Michael:

Hey, you're my good Aussie buddy, right? You know I'm a huge Kodak fan,
correct?

Well, then, how 'bout this? I'll buy a Z712IS, here in the USA, and ship
it to you, in Australia.

Whaddaya say, eh? <g>

Cordially,
          John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
 
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