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Alexander Miha - 08 May 2007 04:34 GMT
I am looking for a tripod to replace a cheap and wobbly one. I would
like a good quality, sturdy one that does *not* try to become a
monopod (i.e. bring all legs together) when I move it a little.
Does not need to support a lot of weight (3kg would be more than
enough). Prefer the one for around $250 or less, but can pay more
if necessary.

Any info is appreciated!

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jean - 08 May 2007 05:04 GMT
I have a Manfrotto 190 which is very flexible (many positions possible) and
a Manfrotto 322RC2 head which is really great, easy to position and lock in
place.  Both fairly expensive but not looking back on my purchase.

Jean

> I am looking for a tripod to replace a cheap and wobbly one. I would
> like a good quality, sturdy one that does *not* try to become a
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> Any info is appreciated!
implanterion@yahoo.com - 08 May 2007 11:15 GMT
> I have a Manfrotto 190 which is very flexible (many positions possible) and
> a Manfrotto 322RC2 head which is really great, easy to position and lock in
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I bought a Gitzo G-2220 Explorer Aluminium Tripod Legs (Rapid Column)
- Supports 13.20 lb (5.99 kg) REG  & paired it w/a Bogen / Manfrotto
486RC2 Compact Ball Head with Rapid Connect System 2 (Quick Release) -
Supports 13.2 lb (6 kg) REG . This makes this unit untoppable.
the legs don't have a limit to open them with...meaning you can lay it
down flat on the ground & the center post....which is off center...can
be positioned so your camera is mere millimeters from the
ground.....should you have macro capabilities w/your camera. I paid
about $250 for the tripod legs & about $65 for the ball head. This may
be more than you were allowing for your budget but believe
me....THEY'RE WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!!!! You can find both of these @
bhphotovideo.com            I hope this has helped you in some way.
Mardon - 08 May 2007 12:59 GMT
> I bought a Gitzo G-2220 Explorer Aluminium Tripod Legs (Rapid Column)
> - Supports 13.20 lb (5.99 kg) REG  & paired it w/a Bogen / Manfrotto
> 486RC2 Compact Ball Head with Rapid Connect System 2 (Quick Release)
<*snip*>

I have a Manfrotto 468MGRC5 ball head.  Mine is on a Manfrotto 055C tripod.  
I'm not especially happy with the 468MGRC5 head.  When I purchased it, I
had also been considering the BH-55 head from Really Right Stuff.  
(http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/)  I went with Manfrotto because it was a
lot cheaper.  My 'complaint' is that it's very hard to get the friction
adjustment set so that it's loose enough to move but still tight enough not
to fall over with a 180mm macro lens or telephoto lens mounted.  I suspect
the RSS equipment would have better tension control.  At least it should
for the price.  The Manfrotto 055C tripod is certainly stable; no
complaints at all in that regard.  The only problem I've encountered is
that after 8 years of use, the friction wheel that holds the top section of
the centre post in place is loosing its grip.  Even if I tighten the wheel
as much a possible, the post creeps down as the camera sits.  That gets
frustrating when taking macros.
eawckyegcy@yahoo.com - 08 May 2007 13:37 GMT
> [he wants a new tripod for $250]

The carbon fibre Gitzo or similar is the end point for most non-casual
photographers.  Fortunately, the Benro equivalents are just as good,
and about half the price, which means your ~$250 can pick up a very
good tripod indeed.
LooksLikeRain - 08 May 2007 14:18 GMT
On May 8, 7:37 am, "eawckye...@yahoo.com" <eawckye...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > [he wants a new tripod for $250]
>
> The carbon fibre Gitzo or similar is the end point for most non-casual
> photographers.  Fortunately, the Benro equivalents are just as good,
> and about half the price, which means your ~$250 can pick up a very
> good tripod indeed.

Has anyone seen the tripods that amvona.com is offering on ebay?  They
seem to be getting good reviews from what I've read, and amvona also
seems to have over 50000 positive feedbacks. I was thinking about
getting either the AT-828BL or the AT-858. Any thoughts as to whether
or not these tripods are any good?
Alexander Miha - 09 May 2007 02:22 GMT
>> [he wants a new tripod for $250]
>
> The carbon fibre Gitzo or similar is the end point for most non-casual
> photographers.  Fortunately, the Benro equivalents are just as good,
> and about half the price, which means your ~$250 can pick up a very
> good tripod indeed.

Thanks to everyone for suggestions! I am thinking about a Gitzo
G-2220 (aluminum), Bogen/Manfrotto 3021 or 190. Can those lock leg
angle so that legs stay apart if you lift the tripod? I am thinking
of putting the 486RC2 ball head on whatever legs I end up getting.

Any further ideas and comments are appreciated. Also, I prefer better
legs to better head (uhm, at least for tripods); is this a mistake?

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JD - 09 May 2007 04:23 GMT
>>>[he wants a new tripod for $250]
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> Any further ideas and comments are appreciated. Also, I prefer better
> legs to better head (uhm, at least for tripods); is this a mistake?

I have a Bogen 3021 Pro so my answer and advice pertain to that model.
The legs have 4 stop points which prevents the leg opening any further
than those 4 stops.  You have a non locking positioning between those
stops, each leg is independent.  The fourth stop is actually the legs
being straight out horizontal which allows the tripod to go right to the
 ground level when you separate the center post away from the head.
The leg postitioniong is by friction, so you could lift the tripod and
the legs will stay in the position they were in PROVIDED YOU DO NOT MOVE
THEM BY ACCIDENT.  If they were on an uneven position and you put them
on an even surface and pushed down AND there was not enough friction the
leg(s) would move.  I believe that would be the case for any tripod that
has independent leg positioning.

If I were to do it again, I'd go for the carbon fiber version, 055MF3 to
reduce the weight but mainly to reduce the vibration.  I swap between a
Bogen 410 gear head (precise postioning) and an Acratech Ultimate ball
head (fast positioning).

I don't have experience with the 486RC2 head, but do have 486 ball heads
 without the quick release.  I wouldn't mount anything much larger or
heavier than a point and shoot on them.   I use these small ball heads
for positioning my lighting sources in macro work.

If you did put a 486RC2 head on a 3021 tripod I think you would be
meeting your preference of a better tripod than the head.

I got my 3021Pro with the cheap 3029 Pan and Tilt.  That was a mistake
and definitely a case of a better tripod / lousy head.

JD
JD - 09 May 2007 05:25 GMT
>>>> [he wants a new tripod for $250]
>>>
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> JD
I need to recant my statement about the 486 ball heads.  I've got Bogen
3009 which look similar but given the specifications I see on B & H must
be much less beefy than the 486.  Still the 486 doesn't look like it
would stack up against an Acractech but the 486 is 1/4 the cost.  Two
things to mention about ballheads.  First is that they don't work well
for macro work (which is why I have the geard head).  Second, for
panarama work, you'll want a ball head that has a separate panning
control.  From the pictures I see of the 486, has just the one control
which means that when you start swinging it horizontally for the pan,
you'll probably mis-adjust in the other two planes.

JD
implanterion@yahoo.com - 09 May 2007 06:09 GMT
> >> [he wants a new tripod for $250]
>
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> Alex

Yes...the Gitzo G-2220 legs will stay locked wherever you lock them.
The legs will make the world of difference....as you'll see when you
get them. But, the ball head you're looking @ is a great one, (I know
because I have it:-P)...VERY sturdy....just like the legs....once
again...worth EVERY PENNY!!!!!
carrera d'olbani - 08 May 2007 14:13 GMT
I strongly recommend a digital tripod. Make a search on this ng for
the keywords; this topic was already discussed several months ago.
Tony Gartshore - 08 May 2007 18:23 GMT
> I strongly recommend a digital tripod. Make a search on this ng for
> the keywords; this topic was already discussed several months ago.

Just make sure it has 11 legs..

T.
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Do Binary Tripods have 11 legs ?

banjo`s - 08 May 2007 18:30 GMT
>> I strongly recommend a digital tripod. Make a search on this ng for
>> the keywords; this topic was already discussed several months ago.
>>
> Just make sure it has 11 legs..
>
> T.

dont know about that, but, a radioactive spider can have 11 legs :)
Jürgen Exner - 08 May 2007 18:46 GMT
> "Tony Gartshore" <me@none.com> wrote in message
>> dolbani@yahoo.com says...
>>> I strongly recommend a digital tripod. Make a search on this ng for
>>> the keywords; this topic was already discussed several months ago.
>> Just make sure it has 11 legs..
>> Do Binary Tripods have 11 legs ?

"There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary numbers and those
who don't."

jue
Doug Payne - 09 May 2007 16:03 GMT
>> I strongly recommend a digital tripod. Make a search on this ng for
>> the keywords; this topic was already discussed several months ago.
>>
> Just make sure it has 11 legs..

That would be a hendecapod.
 
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