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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / May 2007Confusing camera product names and series
I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera companies place their product in the market. Are their product names and series designed on purpose to confuse the consumers? Or are they as confused as we are (in trying to sell products which cover our vast budget range)? Reviewing a variety of products will become difficult for the consumers. Can anyone explain or may be can direct me to a website, which may provide information behind the naming of the products and series? Do lower numbers refer to older models, cheaper price, lower features or all of the above? Examples as follows Canon cameras: Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX series? I know that SD is the ultra compact, TX has camcorder vertical style, A series using regular AA batteries? How does G7 compare to S3 IS and Pro series? Why SD1000 camera is cheaper than SD900? Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for professionals? Nikon Cameras: Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and S? Is the new Coolpix P5000 similar to Coolpix 5000 introduced much earlier? Is Coolpix S9 has better features, and more expensive that the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)? Digital series: Is the D200 the new ultimate digital camera produced by Nikon? How does it compare to the older D1 or D1H introduced in the early 2000s? Panasonic/Lumix cameras: Powershot series : What are the difference between series FX, FZ, LX, LC, LZ and TZ? I found the Panasonic series are even worse than Canon in term of trying to compare with. LZ series is the bulky one. What series is the ultra compact one? Is it LC series? Is the FZ50 currently the top of the line of the powershot series? How is this compare to Lumix LX2, for example? Does Lumix produce product similar to Canon G7? Only one digital product, which is L1 - so, no comparison. Thanks for info. On May 6, 8:49 am, anira...@yahoo.com wrote: > Digital series : Are EOS ( 5D,30D, etc) series are superior that > Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for > professionals? > > Thanks for info. On the Canon Digital, the shorter the number, the more Pro the camera... 1D, 5D Professional 10D, 20D, 30D Pro-Consumer 300D, 350D, 400D Consumer The 300D, 350D, and 400D is the "other" name for the Digital Rebel, Rebel XT, and Rebel XTi Sam > On May 6, 8:49 am, anira...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > 1D, 5D Professional THe 5D . . . IS NOT A PRO CAMERA, Canon on considers the 1D series as pro. Only the 1D series will get Canon Pro Service, in other words if it breaks a 5D goes into the que and doesn't get any priority in servicing, which in Canada runs 4-6 weeks... > On May 6, 8:49 am, anira...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The 300D, 350D, and 400D is the "other" name for the Digital Rebel, > Rebel XT, and Rebel XTi Also, ALL of the above are EOS series. "EOS", IIRC, actually refers to the lensmount design used in all of their autofocus SLRs, film or digital. >I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera > companies place their product in the market. Are their product names [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Thanks for info. You are not going to find any theme for model naming which would be seriously useful for comparison shopping between models, as opposed to just looking at the feature set of each model. Whatever patterns exist are going to be subject to so many exceptions that your inquiry is probably useless. Having recently shopped two 7 meg point-and-shoot digitals with and for two pre-teens, I have experienced your confusion. I ened up sitting at a computer with each "end-user", fixing a price range, then briefly comparing the most important features of each model within the offerings of two makers. For what its worth, the type of battery options usable [AA], physical size, time from power-up to first exposure, and shutter lag reported by users proven to be the most important issues. I was surprised at the sophisiticated shopper's decision-making of a 10 and 13 year old; I was not so surpised that the cameras are used more as novel toys, exotic possessions, than as photographic appliances. >> I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera >> companies place their product in the market. >> Canon cameras: >> Powershot series : What are the difference between A,G,S,Pro,SD and TX [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Digital Rebel series (XT, Xti) ? Are EOS series designed for >> professionals? > You are not going to find any theme for model naming which would be > seriously useful for comparison shopping between models, as opposed to just > looking at the feature set of each model. Whatever patterns exist are going > to be subject to so many exceptions that your inquiry is probably useless. Did you even read the other replies? Although I'd agree that down and dirty comparison of features and price points is more important.  Signaturejohn mcwilliams > I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera > companies place their product in the market. Are their product names > > Nikon Cameras: > Powershot series : What are the difference between series L, P, and > S? Performance, Style, Life. This is pretty clear on the Nikon website. What is not clear is what is actually meant by the buzzwords Style and Life :-( SignatureAlan ( If replying by mail, please note that all "sardines" are canned. However, unless this a very old message, a "tuna" will swim right through. ) >I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera > companies place their product in the market. As do we all. I have been teaching digital photography in my community and find it difficult to help others select a camera. This might be an excellent opportunity for someone. A web-based parametric search engine. One would enter price and key items from their desired feature set, and then be presented with models that comply with the search parameters. Such a site would be a major PITA to constantly debug and upgrade but with paying links to vendors, it could be profitable. No, I am not about to tackle it myself but would be interested in helping anyone who would. : I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera : companies place their product in the market. Are their product names [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] : the Coopix S5? Is P5000 Nikon best offer to compete with high end : powershot camera (rival to Canon G7)? Nikon has a "Powershot" series? Won't that get them sued for copyright infringement? I'm pretty sure Canon was there first. Bob On May 6, 11:49 pm, anira...@yahoo.com wrote: > I still have a hard time to figure out on how the major camera > companies place their product in the market. Are their product names [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Thanks for info. Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in different regions WHY? Kinga 2o2 > Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in > different regions > > WHY? In order to avoid calling it an S5300. The next camera in this line may be named S800 and S5800. I assume that you're familiar with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line and the greater confusion that those names may have caused. > > Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in > > different regions [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line and > the greater confusion that those names may have caused. Sorry, u missed my point.Being the SAME name for the same camera, regardless where its sold. Has Nth.America a problem is saying "S5700" so they made it shorter to "S700"? But then again, i remember my first SLR/35mm was a Minolta 700, called a "Dynax'? or similar in N/America Cheers Kinga 202 >> In order to avoid calling it an S5300. The next camera in this >> line may be named S800 and S5800. I assume that you're familiar [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sorry, u missed my point.Being the SAME name for the same camera, > regardless where its sold. Sorry, but you didn't make an clear and obvious point. You did see that I said "I assume that you're familiar with the naming convention used for earlier cameras in this line . . .", where nothing like "S700" was used. Whether you do or don't know, the names used for the same Fuji cameras, depending on region, are S5100/S5500 and S5200/S5600. Notice that S500 and S600 weren't used. As to why, It's hard to say since many manufacturers do it, including Canon, Nikon and Sony, among others, and this name changing isn't used just for cameras. Sometimes it might be to use a word that may appeal more to people in one region than another, such as Canon's use of "Digital Rebel" for the USA. In the case of the Fuji, it's not that, since the difference between S5200 and S5600 would hardly matter much in terms of its appeal to buyers. In this case it might be for Nikon's reason, which is to make it easier to identify where the camera might have been "legitimately" sold. I don't know if Fuji restricts warranty coverage as unreasonably as Nikon does, in attempting to deny coverage to gray market cameras. > Has Nth.America a problem is saying "S5700" so they made it shorter > to "S700"? Obviously not, as S5200 wouldn't be any harder to say than S5600. I did give a possible reason why S700 was used instead of S5300. Do try to pay more attention. Focus. Focus. :) Which leads us to another interesting point/question. While this isn't your first message to appear using the name "Michael.Pasturi", it's the first I've seen to have been signed "Kinga 202". Did you slip up, or were you unduly influenced by Fuji into using multiple confusing nyms. :) > But then again, i remember my first SLR/35mm was a Minolta 700, called > a "Dynax'? or similar in N/America Maybe it's just that Minolta (and other manufacturers) leave product naming to local marketing "experts", and in the USA they tend to value (or overvalue) the influence of name associations with sales. "x" is often used for various reasons. "Dyna" might bring "Dynamic" to mind. You'll never see a serious camera named "Sleepy" or "Woofer 180". <g> Cheers Not Kinga 202 Not Michael Pasturi [] > Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in > different regions > > WHY? > > Kinga 2o2 Some customers are more gullible than others.... David >> Dont forget Fujifilm, and its weird reason? to call S700 a S5700 in >> different regions [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Some customers are more gullible than others.... Who are the more gullible customers? The ones that reside where the S700 is sold or the ones where the S5700 is sold? In the past you've been critical of manufacturers touting non-mechanical IS cameras. That's where invoking gullibility has at least some merit, but it doesn't here, unless the digit '5' is enchanted. :) |
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