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Photo Forum / Digital Photography / Digital Photo / January 2007IS f/1.2 FOR YOU?
Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665632/original http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665634/original > Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of > Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665632/original > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665634/original ...what I said about the f/1.8, only more so! Did you munge the irises, so we can't see the reflection? dwight >Did you munge the irises, so we can't see the reflection? Nope. They were out of focus anyway, which was kinda the point. > Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of > Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665632/original > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665634/original That's not from narrow DoF, it's more so attributed to a very soft lens. Some lenses aren't designed to be shot wide open and this is one of them. There are many complaints of this lens being soft. Its performance surely doesn't command Canon's high asking price. This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost double the price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. If you want superior sharpness and bokeh your only choice is to get the Noct. Rita >> Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of >> Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. If you want superior > sharpness and bokeh your only choice is to get the Noct. I'm very fond of mine; it's a great portrait lens in digital, and I work in dark parties a lot so I use it wide open fairly often. >> That's not from narrow DoF, it's more so attributed to a very soft >> lens. Some lenses aren't designed to be shot wide open and this is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'm very fond of mine; it's a great portrait lens in digital, and I > work in dark parties a lot so I use it wide open fairly often. You're not kidding, the old Noct is pure ecstasy in these low ambient lighted situations. Rita >> Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of >> Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Rita I really hate going from one newsgroup to another and reading the same posts. > I really hate going from one newsgroup to another and reading the same > posts. Thunderbird still hasn't got the ability to mark as read x-posts, afaik. However, hitting "k" kills the entire thread, so you have to do it only once for the other NGs. Or use a news client that has that ability.  SignatureJohn McWilliams >> I really hate going from one newsgroup to another and reading the same >> posts. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Or use a news client that has that ability. Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about "k". It only kills that particular thread, right. I don't necessarily want it to stop the poster from posting other messages. Thanks >>> I really hate going from one newsgroup to another and reading the >>> same posts. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > from posting other messages. > Thanks Correct, it just kills that one thread. >>>> I really hate going from one newsgroup to another and reading the >>>> same posts. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Correct, it just kills that one thread. 'Zackly. If I am able to read all my groups in one sitting, it's easy enough to just kf the thread knowing I can follow it in one of the other groups. For those whom who wish to not read, choose "Create Filter from message". SignatureJohn McWilliams > Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about "k". It > only kills that particular thread, right. I don't > necessarily want it to stop the poster from > posting other messages. I wish Google Groups had THAT feature! > I wish Google Groups had THAT feature! You don't use a real newsreader? Signaturem-m >> Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of >> Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > on the used market. If you want superior sharpness and bokeh your only > choice is to get the Noct. The Canon looks like a very nice lens to me. >>> Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of >>> Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > The Canon looks like a very nice lens to me. It looks niced to Rita, too, but his trollish tendencies will never allow him to acknowledge this. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >> That's not from narrow DoF, it's more so attributed to a very soft >> lens. Some lenses aren't designed to be shot wide open and this is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Canon looks like a very nice lens to me. I think you are going to find Bret's final conclusion on this is while it does perform well it surely isn't offering performance that will knock you out of your seat. Had he bought it instead of renting it I can safely say he would be disappointed for the price. Rita > This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost double > the price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. I should think the Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L hasn't been available long enough for *any* kind of track record on the used market. --/<eith >> This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost >> double the price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. > > I should think the Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L hasn't been available long > enough for *any* kind of track record on the used market. Oops, that should read, "This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost double the price on the used market compared to the price of a new Canon 50/1.2." There are actually foolish people letting their used pristine condition Nocts go for $3,000 on eBay. Rita >>> This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost >>> double the price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > a new Canon 50/1.2." There are actually foolish people letting their used > pristine condition Nocts go for $3,000 on eBay. "A fool and his lens are soon parted?" SignatureSkip Middleton www.shadowcatcherimagery.com www.pbase.com/skipm >>>> This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost >>>> double the price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > "A fool and his lens are soon parted?" Make that "A fool and his lens-money" and you've got something... SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson >>> This is why the world famous 58mm f/1.2 Noct Nikkor command almost >>> double the price of the 50/1.2 Canon on the used market. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a new Canon 50/1.2." There are actually foolish people letting their used > pristine condition Nocts go for $3,000 on eBay. I picked mine up used on a "table sale" at a local camera store (where they put all their stuff they wanted to seriously clear out on tables in the parking lot, in a tent in the parking lot I think) for $700, in the early 1990s I think. It was near-mint then, I think. Probably at least very good still. But not currently for sale :-). > Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of > Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665632/original > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665634/original Is that a "FEATURE" of the lens? Bob Williams >> Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of >> Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Is that a "FEATURE" of the lens? > Bob Williams That's a "FEATURE" of f1.2. SignatureImages (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at: www.pbase.com/markuson > Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of > Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665632/original > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665634/original <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html> <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html> Many people filter out crossposts which is why I don't do it. If you don't want to read the same post twice, then it is little trouble to skip over it. Of course, different posts in different groups get different replies. > Here are a couple of examples showing the extremely narrow Depth of > Field when shooting the Canon 50mm f/1.2L wide open: > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665632/original > > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73665634/original Really nice Bret. You may remember that I use a Pentax 50mm f1.2 sometimes, liking it as a B&W environmental portrait lens (I linked to a picture taken with it in a thread in RPE35 once). I haven't used it on animals though: maybe I should. The 135mm f1.8 that I also use for portraits is a nice cat lens too. Peter |
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