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Which One? SD550 SD700 SD630 SD600???

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Poindexter - 30 Mar 2006 23:53 GMT
Which one of these super small Canons is the best camera?

Image quality, shutter lag, low light focusing are important.

I have a canon 350d but I want something small to carry in my pocket.

Thanks!
Paul Rubin - 31 Mar 2006 00:09 GMT
> Which one of these super small Canons is the best camera?
> Image quality, shutter lag, low light focusing are important.
> I have a canon 350d but I want something small to carry in my pocket.

The SD700 has IS which is possibly of some help in low light.
ASAAR - 31 Mar 2006 02:29 GMT
>> Which one of these super small Canons is the best camera?
>> Image quality, shutter lag, low light focusing are important.
>> I have a canon 350d but I want something small to carry in my pocket.
>
> The SD700 has IS which is possibly of some help in low light.

 IS may help reduce blur in low light situations, but I've never
heard that it helps AF, whether the light is low or abundant.  The
compact Fuji F10/F11/F30 meets all of the requirements (especially
low light picture taking ability), although it's not super small,
and has no viewfinder.  It'll easily fit in most pockets though, as
long as small shirt pockets are ruled out.
Paul Rubin - 31 Mar 2006 03:07 GMT
> >> Which one of these super small Canons is the best camera?
> >> Image quality, shutter lag, low light focusing are important.
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>   IS may help reduce blur in low light situations, but I've never
> heard that it helps AF, whether the light is low or abundant.

I should have added, all these Canons have focusing lamps and their
low light AF ability should be similar.
ASAAR - 31 Mar 2006 05:09 GMT
>>   IS may help reduce blur in low light situations, but I've never
>> heard that it helps AF, whether the light is low or abundant.
>
> I should have added, all these Canons have focusing lamps and their
> low light AF ability should be similar.

 It's unfortunate that the AF lamps are only useful at relatively
close distances.  Do you know if any use IR, as the green and red AF
lamps used by my cameras can be distracting.  I have no experience
with the highly praised AF systems (laser?) used by some of Sony's
cameras (such as the 828).  I wonder if it's also superior in low
lighting?   I'm still waiting for the ideal small camera (for me,
not necessarily ideal for others).  One would be something like the
Fuji F10/11/30 I already mentioned, but with a viewfinder, AA or AAA
batteries instead of Li-Ion and slightly smaller size.  I would have
liked to get the less sophisticated but tiny, AAA using Praktica
Mini, recently mentioned in a couple of other threads, but it
doesn't seem to be available in the USA, even from dealers such as
Bway Photo, that often has cameras not normally sold here.
Paul Rubin - 31 Mar 2006 05:16 GMT
>   It's unfortunate that the AF lamps are only useful at relatively
> close distances.  Do you know if any use IR, as the green and red AF
> lamps used by my cameras can be distracting.

I think there are some Ricoh models that use IR AF, but all others I
know of use visible (usually white) AF lamps.  Yeah, they're
distracting.

The lenses on these cameras have very short focal length (large DOF),
so at distances too large for the illuminators, they can just focus at
infinity and be fine.

> I have no experience with the highly praised AF systems (laser?)
> used by some of Sony's cameras (such as the 828).  I wonder if it's
> also superior in low lighting?

Visible red.  It supposedly works pretty well though.

> I'm still waiting for the ideal small camera (for me, not
> necessarily ideal for others).  One would be something like the Fuji
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> doesn't seem to be available in the USA, even from dealers such as
> Bway Photo, that often has cameras not normally sold here.

If you want a really tiny AAA camera, try the Sony DSC-U20/U30/U50.
I think they're all discontinued but you can find them NOS, on Ebay, etc.
ASAAR - 31 Mar 2006 05:48 GMT
> If you want a really tiny AAA camera, try the Sony DSC-U20/U30/U50.
> I think they're all discontinued but you can find them NOS, on Ebay, etc.

 Assuming they're not old enough to have horrible battery life I
might consider one of them.  But I don't care much for eBay, and
don't recognize "NOS".  Does that mean something like "new", ie,
Never Offered for Sale?
Paul Rubin - 31 Mar 2006 05:53 GMT
>   Assuming they're not old enough to have horrible battery life I
> might consider one of them.  But I don't care much for eBay, and
> don't recognize "NOS".  Does that mean something like "new", ie,
> Never Offered for Sale?

NOS = New Old Stock, a new (unused, unopened, etc.) unit of a
discontinued product that's still sitting on a shelf of some store or
warehouse.
ASAAR - 31 Mar 2006 06:13 GMT
> NOS = New Old Stock, a new (unused, unopened, etc.) unit of a
> discontinued product that's still sitting on a shelf of some store or
> warehouse.

 Thanks, and that's fine with me.  Unless it has been sitting
"unused, unopened" in a Radio Shack store, where I've found "new,
unused" cameras having dead batteries installed, and flash cards
installed containing pictures. :)
 
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