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Healthy Stealthy - 30 Jan 2006 19:57 GMT
I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
doesn't come out.

Can anyone tell me what this might be? I read a portion of the manuel,
and it said something about cleaning a certain device.  Should I just
go to a Canon rep to have this done?

Thanks for your help.
Eatmorepies - 30 Jan 2006 20:04 GMT
>I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
> spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
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>
> Thanks for your help.

Could be a spec of dirt on the focus screen - I had that. Take the lens off
and use a blower to blow air across the screen (it's up abovethe mirror). Do
take care not to touch any of the surfaces unless it's with something
designed for the job.

John
Healthy Stealthy - 30 Jan 2006 20:49 GMT
Actually, before I used the blower AND the brush cleaner on around that
mirror section like a dummy. I hope I didn't do any damage. I don't
think  I did.  I read the manuel and it says to only use air. I'm going
to take it to the shop tomorrow to ask them their opinion.

How does one know if they cause damage to these cameras?
alex - 31 Jan 2006 18:12 GMT
> Actually, before I used the blower AND the brush cleaner on around that
> mirror section like a dummy. I hope I didn't do any damage. I don't
> think  I did.  I read the manuel and it says to only use air. I'm going
> to take it to the shop tomorrow to ask them their opinion.
>
> How does one know if they cause damage to these cameras?

You can lock the mirror up for this very purpose in the menu settings.  I
had the same on my 350D - dust on the prism above the mirror.

Alex
Healthy Stealthy - 30 Jan 2006 20:50 GMT
Let me restate, what I did touch the surface was with camera cleaning
material, such as the blower and the wiper. It's not like I took
anything to try to clean it with. However, I still have to use caution,
and I understand this.
Thanks
Eric Schreiber - 30 Jan 2006 21:43 GMT
> I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
> spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
> doesn't come out.
> Can anyone tell me what this might be? I read a portion of the manuel,
> and it said something about cleaning a certain device.  Should I just
> go to a Canon rep to have this done?

That device is the image sensor, the 'film' part of the digital camera.
You would only need to worry about that if the speck is showing up in
your images.

Since it's showing up in your viewfinder, you can pretty much rule out
it being on the sensor. That's a good thing - I don't know about anyone
else, but the idea of having to clean that sensor (and sooner or later
I will probably have to) gives me the willies. The speck you're seeing
could be on the mirror, or on the back of the eyepiece glass, or even
on either end of your lens.

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Healthy Stealthy - 30 Jan 2006 22:22 GMT
Thanks Eric,

I did take off the lens, but I didn't press the sensor cleaner button.
I'm going to have some pros look at it tomorrow to see what I should
do. It's probably very simple.

I kept the camera in plastic inside the camera bag. I don't know how it
could have gotten dirty.

Which brings up another question?  How protective should I be for
storing my cameras? I have a Canon Rebel XT as well as a Canon Elura 80
that I keep on a Canon bag.  What's the rules on keeping the camera's
safe? Should I keep them wrapped in plastic then in the bag? Or is t he
bag good enough? Sorry, I might sound neurotic about this. But I love
my cameras and I want to protect them. :)  I guess I should start
another thread asking this. But I'm all ears now that you're here.

Thanks

> > I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
> > spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
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> could be on the mirror, or on the back of the eyepiece glass, or even
> on either end of your lens.
Sarah Brown - 30 Jan 2006 23:33 GMT
>I kept the camera in plastic inside the camera bag. I don't know how it
>could have gotten dirty.

When you change lenses, dust gets in and settles on the mirror. When you
press the shutter-release, the mirror flips up and catapults this dust at
the focus screen. Some of it sticks.
Eric Schreiber - 31 Jan 2006 01:48 GMT
> Which brings up another question?  How protective should I be for
> storing my cameras?

Reasonably protective. Which, of course, is no answer at all :)

If you keep your camera in a camera bag, and you're not in any
especially dirty environments, you should be fine. Even so, you will
want to take a couple of minutes from time to time to give it a
once-over, and take care of any problems you find. This means cleaning
off the outside and the lens contacts, making sure that screws are
tight, that sort of thing.

If you're working on a beach, or in any dusty and windy area, then you
should take extra care to ensure that the lens cap is on when not in
use, and protect the camera from wind when changing lenses. But you
don't need a Level 5 Clean Room or anything.

> Should I keep them wrapped in plastic then in the bag?

If you're going through temperature extremes, such as leaving your
toasty warm house to take snowscape pictures, you should keep the
camera in a sealed plastic bag until its temperature matches the
environment, to protect it from condensation.

> But I love my cameras and I want to protect them.

Believe me, I understand!

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Sarah Brown - 30 Jan 2006 23:33 GMT
>I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
>spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
>doesn't come out.

As has been suggested, it's most likely dirt on the focus screen. IME,
trying to clean it off is mostly a waste of time, and if you do get it off,
more will be along pretty soon. If it's not absolutely huge. Just try to
ignore it. Occupational hazard of owning an SLR.
Healthy Stealthy - 31 Jan 2006 00:25 GMT
Oh,  but leaving it alone  will drive me crazy!

> >I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
> >spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
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> more will be along pretty soon. If it's not absolutely huge. Just try to
> ignore it. Occupational hazard of owning an SLR.
Big Bill - 31 Jan 2006 03:44 GMT
>Oh,  but leaving it alone  will drive me crazy!

Consider yourself lucky; a lot of people have to walk to get there.
:-)
In my DRebel/300D, I have a piece of dust in the viewfinder somewhere,
and air won't take it out. But I consider myself lucky; I don't have
any on the sensor (yet!). I just ignore it, as it doesn't affect
anything.

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Tesco News - 31 Jan 2006 01:10 GMT
>I recently got a Canon Rebel XT digital camera. Today I discovered a
> spec when I look through the view finder. I tried cleaning it but it
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>
> Thanks for your help.

Hi.

Dirty marks in the VFs of SLRs and DSLRs are fairly commonplace.

In the old days some people even used to get little bugs living inside
theirs. The dirt can not affect the image, so just leave it alone, unless it
is, or appears to be, very large.

As for Camera storage, you can cause damage by being over careful.

Sealed Poly bags are not a good idea, they can hold in moisture.

They are very usefull when your camera is in the Gadget Bag, and that is
being subjected to heavy rain for a longish time.  None of the materials
used for haversacks and camera bags are completely waterproof, as any
experienced hillwalker can tell you, so putting the cameras into thick poly
bags inside inside the Gadget Bag will protect them. This should only be
done when actually needed, and ensure the camera is not right at the bottom
of the bag, just in case a little pool develops.

Electronic devices, including cameras, should be stored in cool dry places,
a slightly draughty cupboard is Ok, but try to protect them from dust.  Do
not keep them in Kitchen, Bathroom or Bedroom cupboards.  Remember dust can
be removed, but corrosion due to internal moisture can not.

If the Camera has a built in flash, do charge it up and fire it off a few
times every month or so.  Capacitors deteriorate if not used, and if they
corrode, the Camera will be a write off.

BUT do not be overprotective of your equipment, it is meant to be used quite
heavily, and is fairly rapidly going to become worthless, due to new
arrivals.

Roy G
 
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