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YES! dx4330 repaired.

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hfs2 - 30 Dec 2005 23:03 GMT
My flash went out on my fav camera last year.  The repair cost was
just too much so I purchased a broken dx4530 on ebay for $18.

After getting my courge up, I "popped" open the 4330 and
replace a flash "module" with the unit found in the
4530.  Same board in both camera.  Scary.  Was just one small screw
and the module plugged in.  (I experimented "popping" open on the 4530)

Lot a stuff in there.  I'd say a half a dozen power supplies; TI DSP
tms320.
Was interesting to find the sensor was hand soldered on it's mounting
pwb.  Bats
were connected to the pwb with what I'd call 'rails'.  Some big current
in there.

Also found out why the mode wheel was flakey.  There are four gold
fingers
that ride on gold pwb traces.  I think they were bent in mfgr.  Bent
the back
down and works great!

Flash cap 335V 120 uF.

Also found a battery in there.  I assume it's in there to hold the data
in
some chip.  I guess that would mean you could reset your counter if
you wished.  I had always thought it was a flash memory setup.

I took some pictures of the 4530 gutted if anyone is interested.  Post
you email if you
dare.  This is a junk address.  But if you put DX4530 GUTTED in the
subject header
I'll send you the pics.... maybe :-)

Great to have my camera back!
Mark² - 30 Dec 2005 23:19 GMT
> My flash went out on my fav camera last year.  The repair cost was
> just too much so I purchased a broken dx4530 on ebay for $18.
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> and the module plugged in.  (I experimented "popping" open on the
> 4530)

Snip

> Great to have my camera back!

Nice work!!
:)
WM - 30 Dec 2005 23:31 GMT
Are you saying that the problem with the flash was the capacitor?

>My flash went out on my fav camera last year.  The repair cost was
>just too much so I purchased a broken dx4530 on ebay for $18.
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>
>Great to have my camera back!
hfs2 - 31 Dec 2005 04:56 GMT
I have no idea.  This was just an FYI.

> Are you saying that the problem with the flash was the capacitor?
>
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> >
> >Great to have my camera back!
tnom@mucks.net - 31 Dec 2005 04:09 GMT
>My flash went out on my fav camera last year.  The repair cost was
>just too much so I purchased a broken dx4530 on ebay for $18.

snip

Couldn't resist replying because you sound like you at least have a
little knowledge of the flash units.

My Sony Cybershot DSC-H1 flash stopped working today. This was
the first time the camera went through a real workout. I took about
100 shots rather rapidly. Sometimes the flash unit slowed the shutter
response until it was fully charged. Then the flash just stopped
working period. Are flash units prone to fail or did I just get a bum
camera?
hfs2 - 31 Dec 2005 04:59 GMT
When my camera first went out I posted asking what people thought it
was.
A camera pro came back and said 9 out 10 it was the flash tube.
I have no idea what failed.  I just decide to replace the simpliest
chunk.  This module had that large cap, the flash tube and I believe
the trigger.
ASAAR - 31 Dec 2005 06:50 GMT
> My Sony Cybershot DSC-H1 flash stopped working today. This was
> the first time the camera went through a real workout. I took about
> 100 shots rather rapidly. Sometimes the flash unit slowed the shutter
> response until it was fully charged. Then the flash just stopped
> working period. Are flash units prone to fail or did I just get a bum
> camera?

 The flash tube (and recharge circuit) get hot very quickly, and
you may have given the camera too much of a workout.  From memory, I
think that Nikon's flash manuals say that the flashes (SB-600,
SB-800) should be good for 10 full power flashes within a short
period.  Then the flash has to be allowed to cool for either 10 or
30 minutes.  The flashes have protective circuitry so that if they
are used too much they automatically disables themselves until cool
enough to resume operations.  If you're lucky, the DSC-H1 will do
the same and should be ok by now.  If not, it's flash, while not as
powerful as the SB-x00s, might well have fried something since 100
flashes can generate a *lot* of heat.  If it turns out that you're
lucky and the flash has resumed operation, try to remember this tip:

 DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!!!

 <g>
Ron Hunter - 31 Dec 2005 10:17 GMT
> My flash went out on my fav camera last year.  The repair cost was
> just too much so I purchased a broken dx4530 on ebay for $18.
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>
> Great to have my camera back!

Glad you didn't make contact with the flash cap. when doing the repair.
 That could really give you a thrill.  Grin.
Congrats on a successful repair.
Rich - 31 Dec 2005 21:46 GMT
>My flash went out on my fav camera last year.  The repair cost was
>just too much so I purchased a broken dx4530 on ebay for $18.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
>Great to have my camera back!

It's nice to be able to fix something like that on your own.
-Rich
 
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